A Visit to KelbyOne and Interview With Scott Kelby

JP Danko

JP Danko is a commercial photographer based in Toronto, Canada. JP can change a lens mid-rappel, swap a memory card while treading water, or use a camel as a light stand.

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I recently had the chance to visit the KelbyOne offices and studio space near Tampa Bay, Florida and sit down with President and CEO Scott Kelby for an interview.

I have always been a big fan of Scott’s concise, open and honest approach to photography education.

My first Kelby book was the The Adobe Photoshop Lightroom 2 Book back in 2008 (which I still refer to once in a while) and I regularly follow Scott’s Photoshop Insider blog and catch The Grid when I can.

I’m even more impressed after touring the KelbyOne space and finding out more about what goes on behind the scenes to produce all of that KelbyOne content and Scott’s approach to photography education.


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Tour Of The KelbyOne Offices & Studio Space

If there is one thing that is the most impressive feature about the KelbyOne facilities, it is how multi-functional the space is.

If you took everything you ever dreamed of from your average photographer’s basement studio and multiplied it by a million – that is essentially the KelbyOne space.

There is a gallery for showcasing local talent, the work of featured KelbyOne instructors and members (read more about The Gallery at KelbyOne here), a fully provisioned photography studio, numerous sets for filming the many KelbyOne exclusive webcasts and public shows (including the set for The Grid), and a storage room that would make anyone who has to cram all of their gear into a broom closet jealous. There is also a theater for live performances, and of course a ready-to-rock stage with a complete drum kit, concert lighting and everything.

Here are a few of the photos I captured on the tour.

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The Gallery at KelbyOne
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The set for The Grid!
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Behind the scenes on the KelbyOne studio set.
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Scott’s photography studio space.

Interview With Scott Kelby

After taking me through the KelbyOne space I had the opportunity to sit down with Scott for an interview.

The following are excerpts from my question and answer session with Scott Kelby:

KelbyOne is one of the world’s most popular places to learn photography (and video). What is the most rewarding aspect of being the President & CEO, and the most challenging?

KelbyOne is education first. All of our classes are member driven – we survey our membership and develop content based on their feedback. The best part is unsolicited responses from members saying things like “I’m doing the thing I’m supposed to be doing”. I do twenty to twenty-four seminars a year and I get to speak with a lot of people one on one. I get to see that we’re teaching people to do things they never thought possible.

What’s challenging is there is so much free content to compete with. We offer education – not tutorials. I want KelbyOne to be a training company that I’d want to join – so to compete in the education space we have to constantly reinvest and offer our members an extra special experience. We have only the best instructors who are the best in the world and we try to make learning fun and engaging. All of our instructors love what they’re doing.

In the online age people can be notoriously negative online. How do you manage the KelbyOne brand?

Most of our feedback is positive and our membership community is very positive. We work very hard to foster that.

Negativity hurts – when you work so hard at what you do – it can ruin your day.

We try to show our members that membership is valuable – my job is to get people results, my job is to give them success – and when they’re successful they’re usually pretty happy about it.

The modern practice of photography (and video) is evolving quickly. How do you see the photography/video industry evolving in the next five to ten years across business, technical capabilities and artistic preferences?

Right now every camera has an Achilles’ heel – you’re lucky to find something that meets eighty percent of your needs. Over the last few iterations of cameras we’ve only seen incremental improvements – but sooner or later the camera manufacturers will pull it together.

Copyright is a problem but it’s an education problem. Only designers and users at larger companies take it seriously and metadata and other controls only matter if you care.

It’s so hard to say what might happen a year from now – five or ten years is a long time but people will still be creative and want to learn to explore their creativity.

After DSLR’s started being able to capture good video, everyone thought that video was the next big thing – but it’s never really taken off the way everyone thought. What role do you see video playing?

The great thing about video is the depth of emotion you can convey – the story you can tell is so emotional. I’m an emotional guy, but there aren’t many photographs that move me to cry – but a YouTube video of a soldier coming home or something like that, gets me every time.

The speedbump to video is the editing wall. People take lots of video but it sits on their hard drive because editing is still such a chore.

If you could change one thing about the photography/video industry – what would it be?

I want to change the perception that photography is hard.

It’s not about menus…what do you need to drive a car? A steering wheel, brake and gas – aperture, shutter speed and ISO. Everything else is just options – the radio, heater, power windows – they’re nice but you don’t need that stuff.

The mystique (that photography is complicated) is used to separate people so it persists. Look at something like aperture – how overly complicated is that? Why do we still talk about aperture and f-stops – there could just be a dial – turn it one way – brighter…turn the other way – darker.

It’s what you’re standing in front of and how you aim your camera at it!

If it’s something different, unusual or something people don’t see every day – that’s it.

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Final Thoughts

I want to thank Scott Kelby for taking the time out of his day to meet and talk about what he does at KelbyOne.

It’s kind of odd meeting someone who you have followed online for a long time – on a certain level you feel like you know them – or at least what they project themselves to be online.

Well I’m happy to report that Scott is exactly like you think he should be based on his online persona – right down to his rock-n-roll t-shirt and suit jacket – a genuine good guy.

There are three key impressions that I got after spending some time at KelbyOne – this is probably going to sound like advertising, but it’s really just the vibe I got after spending some time there:

First, KelbyOne produces all of their published educational content in house. Classes are designed, directed, filmed, edited and marketed by KelbyOne professionals. As someone with a few classes on Skillshare I have some idea of how much work goes into developing quality educational content – what KelbyOne does is definitely impressive.

Second, KelbyOne is very responsive to the needs of their members and is committed to their success. A lot of effort goes into offering members perks to add value to their subscriptions – there are member only forums, two digital magazines (Photoshop User and Lightroom User), interactive webcasts and discounts. There are a lot of businesses that could learn from this business model!

Finally, KelbyOne just feels like a genuine positive environment – from KelbyOne members to staff and instructors. With everything going on in our modern world Scott’s commitment to a positive creative space feels surprisingly refreshing.

If you are thinking about joining KelbyOne – there is a ten day free trial – click here. After that, a monthly membership will cost you $19.99 – or an annual membership is $199 ($16.58 per month).

What Do You Think?

Are you a member of KelbyOne? What was your experience?

Are YouTube tutorials good enough for you? What would prompt you to pay for online learning?

What would you have asked Scott?

Have anything to say about Scott’s answers?

Leave a comment below and share your thoughts!


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JP Danko

JP Danko

JP Danko is a commercial photographer based in Toronto, Canada. JP can change a lens mid-rappel, swap a memory card while treading water, or use a camel as a light stand.

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5 responses to “A Visit to KelbyOne and Interview With Scott Kelby”

  1. Fernando Santos Avatar
    Fernando Santos

    I am a KelbyOne member for many years (I can’t even remember how many). Your feelings on KelbyOne as being a “genuine positive environment” are absolutely right! Scott Kelby himself as many (if not all) of the KelbyOne team members are great people. You can meet them at Photoshop World and see y yourself how approachable they are.
    Apart from that, KelbyOne content is just great and the membership price is really inexpensive when you weight all you receive with the amount you paid.
    Then you have the KelbyOne Community which is a great resource where KelbyOne instructors hang out together with KelbyOne members and the KelbyOne team – including Scott Kelby himself. It is the best photography community I know.
    Just like you said JP, this may sound like a paid ad, but it is not! I am a Kelby One member like any other. I do not work for KelbyOne, and I am not paid by KelbyOne for this testimonial.

    Could I use YouTube videos? Yes I could, and actually yes I do go on YouTube and watch “training” videos but I don’t rely on YouTube to get my Photography training. YouTube as good content and bad content – no one works to make sure only good content is published. On the other side, KelbyOne has paying customers that will go away if bad content gets published. On top of that, Scott Kelby is the #1 Photography author in the world with over 5 million books sold… I guess that says it all, doesn’t it? :)

  2. Ross Chevalier Avatar

    Hi JP,

    Nice work on there interview, and I have to agree that Mr. Kelby is exactly what he appears to be, a genuine nice fellow and one of the finest educators I know. I have been an educator myself for many decades, and I believe that I can recognize excellence. It’s not just the content or skills, it’s attitude. My greatest mentor taught me that you can teach skills but cannot teach attitude. Mr. Kelby has a great attitude and he seeks that out in the people that he hires as instructors.

    The KelbyOne offering is a great value. There are hundreds of well produced, thoughtfully constructed classes for members to review. There really is something for everyone, at all levels. There’s a new class put up pretty much every week, and as you’ve noticed, none of them are done in anyone’s Mom’s basement. That’s not a slam against some of the fine people who are trying to help, but an individual producing comprehensive training is very hard work, and there is a lot of dross you must sort through to find something usable. YouTube is a resource for how-to tips, but many videos are incomplete, incoherent and self-contradictory. There are some that are just fabulous, but folks get discouraged trying to find the best ones.

    For $199 a year, you get great training. There are also member discounts with many large players in the photo industry. Your membership could pay for itself in discounts alone if you are having a growth year. Let’s suppose that you were to watch 25 courses in a year. That brings the cost down to $8 per and barely makes a dent in the hundreds that are available. While software changes, technique and process doesn’t go stale. There is nowhere on the planet where you can learn so much, and watch it as often as you wish, at whatever pace you want for this level of value.

    Am I biased? Perhaps. I have been a member for over ten years and have attended seven Photoshop World conferences. Unlike other conferences, the feel is friendly and the instructors don’t pull a vanish right after a class is over. These are good people and they will talk to you. I have become a better photographer and videographer because of the training and the people that I have met at PSW and through KelbyOne. What else could I ask for?

  3. Nancy Foley Avatar
    Nancy Foley

    Hi JP,
    I’ve only been a member of KelbyOne for a year or so and I have to admit that I did start out watching you tube videos for free. I thought I was learning, but it was in such a random fashion. When I finally joined KelbyOne I quickly realized how much time I wasted on those other videos. I still consider myself a beginner, but knowing what I have learned in the past year I truly believe that my membership as been the bargain of the century.

    The KeblyOne site has so much to offer. New classes every week, and hundreds of hours of archived material to sift through. They’ve created a track system that is really great if you want to begin with a more specialized genre. More recently through the new member community section, they’ve given us the opportunity to reach out in real time, ask questions and make suggestions. They really listen and give back to the K1 community.

    But the thing I love the most I think is the honest, straight forward, yet down to earth approach to teaching. The instructors are great and you really get a sense that they love what they do and they have fun doing it. I’ve had the opportunity to see Scott at a seminar last year and again this year at Photoshop World, and I agree with you that he truly is the same guy in person. Genuine.

  4. Guy Baker Avatar
    Guy Baker

    I’ve been a member of K1 for years. They have the best instructors. The best magazines. The best member only webcasts. The best tutorials. The best community.

    I met Scott once in London and for such a busy man he always gives you time and puts members first. Can’t recommend KelbyOne enough, whether you’re just starting out or whether you’re a seasoned photographer, take the free trial and check them out now!

  5. Serge Daleiden Avatar
    Serge Daleiden

    Hi JP,

    Very interesting article that confirms my impression of K1 and Scott Kelby himself…and his team. I haven’t met him personally, but I am a member for years (must be something like 7 or 8 years) and I have never felt the need to rethink my membership. There are many temptations out there, but none has been convincing enough to change my mind. Scott, if you happen to read this, no worries…I’ll stay with the pros!

    What do I think about the tutorials and why do I stick with K1? It is the constant, interesting variety of important relevant material that Scott & Co are coming up with all year round. They never stop to surprise. And all is presented in a “human” manner, meaning always at eyes level. No preaching or patronizing (if that’s a correct English term – I mean no “top down” attitude) and always respectful. Also, the monitoring of polite chatting is highly appreciated. Although I must confess that I am not too zealous in chatting (this reply is an exception because K1 deserves it). And of course Scott’s humour – he keeps a smile on my face when watching either his classes or the grid/webcasts.

    I am not a pro photographer, but K1 keeps me motivated to pursue my passion and refine my work year on year. On the other hand, I strongly believe that if you are a pro and you are not with K1, you are missing out.

    One thing I would like to ask Scott: Would there pleeeaase be time for a few more live appearances of LR or PS courses in Europe?

    K1 is “like a boss”! K1 – keep doing what you are doing!

    Greetings
    Serge

    JP: BTW, in my professional career (outside of photgraphy) I worked 2 years in Montreal…I know it is not Toronto ;)