Two A7R V spec sheets “leak” but they’re a bit difficult to believe

May 7, 2021

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Two A7R V spec sheets “leak” but they’re a bit difficult to believe

May 7, 2021

John Aldred

John Aldred is a photographer with over 20 years of experience in the portrait and commercial worlds. He is based in Scotland and has been an early adopter – and occasional beta tester – of almost every digital imaging technology in that time. As well as his creative visual work, John uses 3D printing, electronics and programming to create his own photography and filmmaking tools and consults for a number of brands across the industry.

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Two rumours have started spreading out of Chinese forums and social media, purportedly detailing specs of an upcoming Sony A7R V. I have to admit, they seem unbelievable without even having looked at them. Even though Sony has had an often… aggressive refresh cycle, this seems way to soon, even for them. The A7R IV was only released in September 2019.

If the specs are to be believed, the rumours seem to be more of an incremental change rather than a revolutionary one, in order to bring the A7R product line more in line with other recent bodies we’ve seen from Sony recently (higher resolution EVF, new menus, etc) and features the competition is pushing – like 8K video. Still… It’s a bit soon.

Rumour #1 comes from Weibo, and reports the same 61-megapixel resolution, 10fps continuous shooting, but features an increased ISO range, and massively expanded video capabilities over the Sony A7R IV.

  • BIONZ XR processor
  • ISO 40-81920 (native 80-32000)
  • 61 million pixels Exmor R sensor
  • 759 points PDAF
  • Real-time tracking eye focus for birds/animals/humans
  • 26 million pixels APS-C Mode
  • 10fps continuous shooting
  • 5.5-stop five-axis image stabilization
  • 9.44 million pixels EVF
  • 2.36 million pixels flip LCD screen
  • New menu
  • Dual CFE-A/SD compatible card slot
  • 10Bit HEIF photos support
  • Lossless compression RAW photos support
  • Shake music mode is updated to four (2 photos/4 photos/8 photos/16 photos) (not yet determined)
  • 16Bit RAW photos in Shaking music support (not yet determined)
  • Full-frame over-sampling 8K/24p, 4K/24p video,
  • Super35 over-sampling 4K/30p video
  • 1.24 times crop mode 4K/60p video
  • XAVC HS/S/SI encoding video color depth up to 10Bit 4:2:2
  • Supports multiple creative modes including S-CineTone
  • Flash sync interface, no full-size HDMI

I’m not sure what the “Shake music mode” is all about. Sony does have a range of home audio equipment with “Shake” naming, but I don’t see how that’s relevant to mirrorless cameras. The other rumoured spec list comes via Creaders.net and it shows essentially the same set of capabilities, although it provides more insight into the video modes.

Scanning performance:

  • FF 9.504K Oversampling: 8K,4K/24p
  • FF 4.752K Binning: 4K/30p
  • FF 3.168K Binning: HD/24,30,60p
  • 1.24x Crop 3.84K Binning: 4K/60p
  • 1.24x Crop 1.92K Binning: HD/120p
  • S35 6.336K Oversampling: 4K/24,30p
  • S35 3.168K Binning: HD/24,30,60p

Encoding format:

  • XAVC HS:
    • 8K: 24p 10Bit 4:2:0
    • 4K: 24/60p 10Bit 4:2:2/4:2:0
  • XAVC S:
    • 4K: 24/30/60p 10Bit 4:2:2 / 8Bit 4:2:0
    • HD: 24/30/60p 10Bit 4:2:2 / 8Bit 4:2:0
    • HD: 120p 8Bit 4:2:0
  • XAVC SI:
    • 4K: 24/30/60p 10Bit 4:2:2
    • HD: 24/30/60p 10Bit 4:2:2

It does seem very strange for A7R V rumours to be popping up now when Sony only recently refreshed the A7R III and A7R IV with updated A7R IIIa and A7R IVa models. Ok, the only change in the refresh was to swap out for the new higher resolution 2.36m-dot LCD instead of the 1.44m-dot released with the original models, but it just makes no sense for Sony to even bother refreshing the A7R IV (and certainly not the A7R III) if the A7R V is just around the corner.

That being said, the Sony A7R III and Sony A7R IV are both heavily discounted on Amazon and B&H (A7R III/A7R IV) right now. Chances are, though, this is most likely to clear the shelves of remaining non-“a” stock in order to make room for the refreshed units. Not because there’s an A7R V on the way any time soon.

So, I probably wouldn’t put too much stock into these just yet…

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13 responses to “Two A7R V spec sheets “leak” but they’re a bit difficult to believe”

  1. Jimmy Andino Avatar
    Jimmy Andino

    …With the release of the A7SIII, FX3 and A1, even fantastic cameras such as the A7RIV now seem woefully behind, specifically due to the new Bionz XR processor and CFexpress Type A, nevermind the new menu system and updated LCD screen… I LOVE the A7RIV but, after having rented and trying both the A1 and A7SIII, it’s almost impossible to imagine dealing with those buffer times during continuous shooting again, not to mention the improved AF/Live Tracking… Having these kinds of specs seems like JUST the thing that Sony would do; it would also give people a great alternative to the $6500 A1, at the cost of no 30 FPS/20 FPS and some other features… I would buy it in a heartbeat (but it would just KILL the resell value of the current A7RIV)…

    1. smarty Avatar
      smarty

      I agree with everything you’ve said, I just think it’s a shame they couldn’t have waited on the release of the sony a7r iv, and added in that processor and whatnot. I’ve wanted to buy the sony a7r iv for a while, but after seeing the sony a7s iii, it was obviously out of date from that moment forwards. I also think they could have called the sony a1 a sony a9 iii. But who knows, maybe the sony a9iii will shoot 60 frames a second or something crazy and the marketing will make more sense to me.

      The flagships are changing, and the prices are going up exponentially, making it harder (from a marketing perspective) not to gimp the lower end models on a software level.

      Plus, knowing any camera you buy will drop in price like a stone is really gut-wrenching when buying something that’s so expensive. I hope someone spares me the “it’s for professionals!”, “you’re not the intended audience”, etc. I am literally its target demographic, but you don’t run a successful business being completely stupid with money all the time.

      I hope the sony a7r v has the new shutter with high sync speed, because that’s something that’s really useful. People say things like you should get a sony a7s iii and a sony a7r iv, but in reality, you’re missing some features on each camera, and the sony a1 really is the only camera to do it all properly so I may just buy that. For now, I’m gonna wait. Fk sony’s pricing strategy of shafting early buyers.

      1. Oberoth Avatar
        Oberoth

        Did you buy the A1?

    2. Oberoth Avatar
      Oberoth

      I still think CFexpress Type A is a mistake, they should have gone with Type B like everyone else. It’s twice the speed and 4x the capacities for half the price (not all together).
      I think Type A will be another Memory Stick!

      1. Kaouthia Avatar
        Kaouthia

        Except Sony was, until recently, the only company making CFexpress Type A, so they could corner the market and name their own price. Another Memory Stick is exactly what they wanted – at least for a little while.

        And twice the speed only matters if you really need it. Does it matter if the car you’re driving can do 150mph or 200mph if the road you’re on is limited to 70mph? :)

        1. Oberoth Avatar
          Oberoth

          So you are happy that you are no longer limited to by SD card speeds but you like being limited by CF Type A card speeds? An odd combination, especially on a 50mp cameras that can shoot at 30fps!

          But speed a-side, I just know the limited capacity and development that Type A has and will get will put off some people from buying Sony cameras. You can buy 2TB Type B cards right now, what’s the biggest Type A? 320GB? How long would that last in an A1 shooting 100MB RAWs and 8K video? It’s a needless and shortsighted money grab by Sony imo.

          1. Kaouthia Avatar
            Kaouthia

            I’ve not said that I’m happy about anything. But you’re completely missing my point. A faster memory card is only important if the memory card is the bottleneck. As far as the camera’s concerned, if it can only write out the buffer at 500MB/sec due to process or whatever other issues, why would you need a card that writes out at 1.6GB/sec when one that will write out at 800MB/sec is already fast enough?

            I didn’t mention capacity and I agreed with you that this was just a Sony money grab. Hence “another Memory Stick is exactly what they wanted”.

          2. Oberoth Avatar
            Oberoth

            Ultimately I think it will hurt Sony in the long run as they will be forced to move over to Type B eventually plus they could/will miss out on some sales from people who either have a load of Type B cards so will only stay within that memory card camp or people that are on the fence between the A1/Z9/R3 but they know the Sony is very limited by Type A’s capacities and high prices which will be enough to push them in another direction.

            As for speed, I don’t know how fast the Sony A1 buffer can readout but I assume cameras either are already or will in the future be made to take advantage of the much faster speeds of Type B so then Sony will again not be able to record internal RAW video or buffer clearing will look slow compared to the competition.

          3. Kaouthia Avatar
            Kaouthia

            Sure, and at some point in the future, when Type B is required and Sony’s cashed out as much as they can on Type A, the new cameras will come with Type B slots. :)

          4. Oberoth Avatar
            Oberoth

            Thankfully Sony is still allowing UHS-II cards too (for now!), I will be using those. Buying a load of 256GB or 512GB V60 cards for peanuts in comparison.

  • Tony Avatar
    Tony

    “Shake music” probably stands for “抖音”, which is basically TikTok in Chinese

  • Don Barnard Avatar
    Don Barnard

    It is overdue for a mirrorless camera system to come with its own dock base. It would be great if the docking station charge the camera synchronized the date and time and had a remote and allowed you to do some basic sorting and editing off your TV set, from the camera.
    If that were the case then it would be a breeze for a company like Sony to allow you to put your pictures to your own music and play back a slideshow and allow you to tag or add metadata to selected images before you even import them into a computer or smart phone.

    1. smarty Avatar
      smarty

      I like the simplicity and security (when used with cert file) of ftp. I know TN doesn’t, but he’s a moron and should stick to making coffee for microsoft.