Canon 5DSR vs Huawei P20Pro Smartphone. I’m somewhat stunned…

Apr 20, 2018

Jolyon Ralph

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Canon 5DSR vs Huawei P20Pro Smartphone. I’m somewhat stunned…

Apr 20, 2018

Jolyon Ralph

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This is the new Huawei P20 Pro smartphone, which boasts what the manufacturers claim is the best ever smartphone camera. Actually, a combination of three sensors with individual lenses, a 40 megapixel (yes!) 1/1.7 inch colour sensor (significantly larger than the 1/2.9 sensor in the iPhone X), a 20 megapixel monochrome sensor (both these sensors are approximately equivalent to a full-frame 27mm lens) and a 8 megapixel 80mm equivalent lens for zooming.

It seems that the three cameras work together and the system uses data from a combination of all three to generate the composite image. This helps drive the phones max ISO up to 102,400 – and this is even before we start looking at the algorithmic tricks it uses for long exposure but stable night shots.

So. How does the resolution on this smartphone camera (albeit a good one) compare with a 50 megapixel dedicated FULL FRAME Canon DSLR? Let’s look!

I put the Canon 24mm f/2.8 IS prime lens on the Canon 5DSR as that would be a reasonable comparison to the 27mm equivalent on the phone (when taking into account the difference between 40 and 50 megapixels). Both were set with everything in ‘Auto’ mode (P mode on the Canon.)

So, here are three pictures:

The top image is the 5DSR, the middle is the P20Pro JPEG, and lowest is the P20Pro DNG file straight out of the camera. Clearly, the P20Pro has some vignetting issues to deal with, but otherwise, not bad. Also, note how it is clearly so much easier to get things straight on a cellphone than with a heavy DSLR!

Of course, at this low resolution even photos taken with a 2000 vintage point-and-shoot are going to look OK, “Show me the crops!” I hear you shout.

Sure thing… 1:1 pixel crops coming up.

Did you guess right?  The upper image is the 5DSR, the lower image is the smartphone.

The crops are taken from the center of the image, as you move out on both systems the quality deteriorates.

Now, there are some things that are clearly obvious such as some purple colour fringes (see the cable running from the security lighting on the right of the lower photo – but you have to agree that the P20 Pro is doing a mighty good job so far.

Next set, this time the order is 5DSR, P20Pro DNG, P20Pro JPG

So, you can see the P20Pro does a quite dramatic JPEG recovery in-camera, fixing the vignetting and boosting the colours and levels to create a rather nice photo (if you want a simple image with no extra work as most phone users do.)

Let’s check those all-important 1:1 crops. I’ve taken the liberty of adjusting the levels on both RAW images first in Lightroom. 5DSR first, P20 Pro following.

Now let’s concentrate on crops. Here’s the original image from the P20 Pro (with numberplate masked out)

And here are the crops from the 5DSR version first, then the P20Pro version

So, color fringing is quite noticeable. This is likely because of the ‘Quad Bayer Filter’.  What this means is that the bayer filter has a resolution of 10 megapixels rather than 40 megapixels, so each block of 4 pixels shares the same colour. This does allow for some good in-camera auto HDR tricks but it does mean when shooting 40 megapixel images you get this fringing.

But let’s disregard that for a moment and instead be astounded at the level of detail that the image has compared to the very much more expensive 5DSR.

And don’t forget, when shooting mono on the P20Pro it switches to the mono sensor (I confirmed this, it’s using the different lens and isn’t simply discarding colour data from the main sensor) which of course has no bayer filter to get in the way.

And, of course, we still have to wait for profiles in Lightroom to improve the P20 Pro raw images. In the meantime, i tried manually. And this is what I got:  I’ve put the 5DSR image again below so you can compare. This time, the P20 Pro photo is at the TOP.

So. In a word. I’m astounded.  Ok that’s two words, but I’m hoping you’ll let me off in these circumstances.

Now, let’s try low-light!

I’m going to try every trick I can, except using a tripod because that’s cheating, to get the 5DSR, which isn’t know for its low light performance, to have a fighting chance. Remember, it’s a $3000+ full-frame camera fighting a cellphone.

So here’s the P20Pro (unaltered) trying to take a photo in our bathroom with the light off and only some reflected light coming through the open door. This was the darkest corner.

And the 5DSR?

Well, after shooting 13 different photos manual focus, I finally got one good photo that could be boosted in Lightroom to give this:

But it was far from easy. The viewfinder was pitch black, focusing didn’t work.

Now, let’s try the P20 Pro’s fabled low light mode. This takes a six second exposure and uses digital stabilization to combine these into a single image. But it does it quite cleverly so that if you have movement in the image it takes a single frame as the base and uses the other images to intelligently update the image.

Now, this does have some artifacts, here’s a 1:1 crop from above.

The artifacts are very similar to those seen when we use the digital zoom (see below), but the end result, when not viewed too closely, is truly impressive.

Zoom is another thing altogether. One annoying thing is that you can’t simply select a particular lens on the P20 Pro and shoot with it in RAW. You only get raw files out of the 40 megapixel colour sensor or, if you switch to mono, from the 20 megapixel mono sensor.

To enable zoom (and to access the 8 megapixel zoom camera) you need to switch back to 10 megapixel resolution, and as you zoom it switches between cropping from the 40 megapixel image to using the 8 megapixel camera as needed.

Unfortunately most people are going to do what I did yesterday and that’s just bang it on maximum zoom and try our luck.

We’re not very lucky it seems.

Here’s a terrible digital zoom at 10x zoom (max) on the phone. I’d suggest sticking to 3x zoom maximum to avoid any digital zooming shenanigans.

So, the conclusion? I certainly won’t be giving up my 5DSR in a hurry, but the quality of the photos from the P20 Pro is astounding. And what’s more, this is a clear indication of the importance of computational photography and how this will become the leading factor in the success of mirrorless cameras as these develop.

Exciting times!

Note. The P20 Pro was bought by me personally and is not a review item or freebie in any way!

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Jolyon Ralph is a photographer and collector of Canon EOS film bodies, although he also shoots digital when forced to.  You can find out more about him and follow his work and writings on his website.  This post was also published here, and used with permission.

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17 responses to “Canon 5DSR vs Huawei P20Pro Smartphone. I’m somewhat stunned…”

  1. Motti Bembaron Avatar
    Motti Bembaron

    Amazing.

  2. Northland Avatar
    Northland

    Great review and results from the Huawei.

    I find my new Google Pixel 2 XL creates fine photos on my daily snowshoeing treks with my dogs so I usually leave my Panasonic G85 at home. As an added bonus my phone acts as my GPS so I can find my way home.

    Of course, as you pointed out, the smartphone can’t replace a good telephoto lens….at this point.

    1. Jolyon Ralph Avatar
      Jolyon Ralph

      I was 99% sure I would get the Pixel 2 XL, that was until I heard about this phone. Remarkably it lived up to the hype.

      1. Miguel Silva Avatar
        Miguel Silva

        I’ve seen a reviewer obtaining better results from Pixel 2 than the P20pro
        https://youtu.be/9ObJElQvrZo

        1. Jolyon Ralph Avatar
          Jolyon Ralph

          I think this is quite possible considering Google’s strengths in AI image processing.

          1. Northland Avatar
            Northland

            The Google computational photography is stunning – this is 2 photos stiched together https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/53f69856b537eb2b3c5b16cc764558f4cda2d404be52c186047f88159867515d.jpg

      2. Northland Avatar
        Northland

        I had a Samsung S8+ that had terrific hardware but awful software compared to Google. I now have all my apps and devices as pure Android which I much prefer.

  3. ????Lord Bokeh Avatar
    ????Lord Bokeh

    Very impressive.

  4. MH Photography Avatar
    MH Photography

    Infos a comparison for a magazine with the iPhone 8 and the 5D mkIV – the canon was way better but the results of the iPhone was very impressive

  5. LenoxM Avatar
    LenoxM

    None of the sample photos are for moving objects or in dark environment. When taking photos in a bar or an open concert, you will see the differencies between a DSLR and a phone.

    1. pincherio Avatar
      pincherio

      Right on the moving pics but did you not notice the bathroom photos in near darkness?

      1. LenoxM Avatar
        LenoxM

        In darkness, the author has to use 6 seconds to take an acceptable photo on P20 in darkness, which is useless for portrait or even trees because people will move in any photo with more than 1/60 second shutter time. Tree will also move because of wind.

        In the first low light comparison, the photo of P20 is unacceptable, but 5DS still gave a reasonable photo. The author never mentioned how long the exposure time is. The weakness of the phone camera is very clear here.

        Thus, anyone will know comparing a cellphone camera to a full frame DSLR is just marketing strategy for those pathetic cellphone manufacturers.

  6. Andras Oravecz Avatar
    Andras Oravecz

    You should be giving away your 5dsr….not for the phone but just cause ?

  7. Sharron Mills Avatar
    Sharron Mills

    Is this the one with Leica lenses front and rear?

  8. Andras Oravecz Avatar
    Andras Oravecz

    I bet it’s 72….but why would a photography page mention this? DPI is useless information ??

  9. Alex Zatsepin Avatar
    Alex Zatsepin

    Oriol Alcalà Querol It does not matter. 1000x1000px 72 dpi and 1000x1000px 300 dpi have the same size.

  10. cbenci Avatar
    cbenci

    Impressive to prove how far phone cameras have come but irrelevant the in real-world unless you want to shoot with a fixed length, don’t want to trigger flashes and are happy with the ergonomic of shooting with a phone.