Stick In A Can (Poorman's Solution For 3D Lighting)

Caterpillar (lit with Can O' Pickles)A long while back I got familiar with Stick In a Can method for light positioning through the (sadly retired) Pro Photo Life Blog by Jim Talkington. In this post, I'll show how to make one of those and what are some great uses for them.

A stick in a can is the poorman's solution for positioning lights in three dimensional space. Basically it combines a stick, which provides some height and a cement filled can which provides anchoring weight. It works great for positioning worklights, reflectors and just about anything you can clamp.

The Caterpillar above was shot using one of those stick in a can and some magic. (more on the magic in a future post).

As you may imagine, that cement stuff is pretty heavy so this constitutes a great solution for a studio , not so much for on location photography. It also provide a great solution for silencing songbirds if you are the mob kind of guy.

Step 1 - Get hold of a can, or preferably cans.

While the entire stick in a can solution is pretty easy, this step is the easiest of all. You can use any kind of can that you like. Canned food, chemical storage cans, paint cans. Really any can would do. Actually Bacon Spam cans are not that great.

Cement, at least the type that I was using, weigh about 2 Kilos for every litter, take that into account when deciding on can size. about 2-3 litter cans are great. Also low wide cans are better than tall thin cans.

I love pickles, so I got me a couple of eight liter pickles can. Please don't ask where all the pickles went. I'd be forced to lie.

Can O' Pickles

Step 2 - Attach a Stick

In the end, the stick would be embedded in cement, kinda like Han Solo and the Carbonite thing. However, It is not easy to place the stick once the can is filled with cement. This is why it is important to fix the stick first.

I use a 2cm by 4cm beam for the stick, however, any similar size will work. As for height, you can make those as high as you want. I think it's best to make 'em as high as possible.

Since we already have an empty clean can, you can be pretty anal (like am) about placing the stick. You can use a straight angle to make a like which is 100% perpendicular to the floor.

Yet Another Can O' Pickles

Now, using a nail and hammer, make two small holes on that line. Those holes will be leads for the screws.

Attach the stick from the inside of the can and screw two wood screws from the outside. You should end up with the stick being very close to the edge of the can.

Can O' Pickles With A Stick

Step 3 - Cement It

Mix whatever cement you are using and pour it into the can. Make sure you clean any leftovers that fell on the floor. Once this stuff dries it is very hard to clean it.

Cemented Can O' Pickles

Step 4 - Use it for lights

As I said in the beginning of this post, this solution is great when working with worklights. You can clam one, two or as many work lights as you want to get a some bright light. It a convenient way to light a cycwall or large backdrops in general.

Depending on the size of the light that you are using, you may want to clamp your worklights with an additional A clamp.

It works great if you just need a "regular" light coming from the side. The nice thing about CFL worklights is that they are so cold, you can flag them with cardboard.

Stick In A Can + Flagged Worklight

but it also works great for booming lights over head, with an additional long stick and short stick. Just make a straight angle using more A clamps to make sure the horizontal bar doesn't sink down.

Boom Stick In A Can + Flagged Worklight

Step 5 - Use it for backdrop mounting

If you have two of those, they can be use to mount a backdrop. Now they are heavy so I would not bring them on location unless I really (and I mean really) had to. And for the basement/studio I already have the low profile mount. Still, A bar clamped between two of those will make an excellent backdrop system.

The link at the top of the post, that directs to Jim Talkington's video really shows some spectacular stuff you can do with those sticks.

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Comments

Thanks for that one, this

  • August 3, 2010
  • stevo

Thanks for that one, this tutorial is exactly what I needed for my next project with low money ;)

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Is he retired?

What happened to Jim Talkington? I loved all his videos from ProPhotoLife and was following his photo a day blog but then it just stopped. Always wondered where he dissapeard to.

I've made about 6 stick-in-a-cans. And also made complementary diffusion screens. They are simply a wooden frame with diffusion material. The frame is easy to clamp to the stick in a cans as you can see in one of Jims videos.

As a tip for the stick in a cans, especially larger paint cans, one can use a concrete mix. That is a mixture of cement, sand and stone. It works out cheaper than filling the can with only cement.

re: Jim

  • August 3, 2010
  • udijw

Hi Zakaria,

Thanks for the concrete mix tip. Actually, this is what I used, just did not know there is a special term for it. We got cement trucks like socks here with all the building going on. It is fun to have free cement, but the noise and mess are killers.

I really don't know much about Jim whereabouts. There was this post where he stopped PPL, but I never saw a similar post for the photo a day blog. Last I heard he was working for a local non profit as a photographer/designer/project manager/superman. Too bad the PPL blog was cut. It was an awesome community and a valuable resource.

re: Jim

Looks like Jim posted an update in November:

http://www.prophotolife.com/evolution-of-a-photographer/

re: Jim Lovers

  • January 3, 2011
  • udijw

Jim recently started posting again on http://www.talkingtonphotovideo.com - some great stuff for the creative mind

I like pickles too

but 8 liters, where do you even get 8 liters of pickles? and do they have ketchup in those quantities?

 

re: the truth about the pickles

  • August 6, 2010
  • udijw

OK, I did not actually eat those. I got the empty can from a near by dining room. I guess they use a few of these a day for tuna salad and such. I made friends with the serving lady and won two "garbage" cans for the project.

the can

  • April 17, 2011
  • Dj Stalin

love the can, and the hebrow text...

 

try checking with a local

  • May 13, 2011
  • Anonymous

try checking with a local pizza place, the mushrooms olives and jalapeanos used to come in large cans such as those

Small Buckets

  • November 10, 2011
  • hal meeks

You can also use small plastic buckets. Metal is better if you are prone to dropping things, but plastic will do.

Another option is to use a christmas tree stand with plastic tubing used for plumbing.

http://www.vistamix.net/wp/wp-content/gallery/lighting/lampstand.jpg

Thanks for the tutorial!

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