Why I’m Not Ditching My DSLR for a Sony A7R II

Aug 27, 2015

JP Danko

JP Danko is a commercial photographer based in Toronto, Canada. JP can change a lens mid-rappel, swap a memory card while treading water, or use a camel as a light stand. To see more of his work please visit his studio website blurMEDIAphotography, or follow him on Twitter, 500px, Google Plus or YouTube. JP’s photography is available for licensing at Stocksy United.

Why I’m Not Ditching My DSLR for a Sony A7R II

Aug 27, 2015

JP Danko

JP Danko is a commercial photographer based in Toronto, Canada. JP can change a lens mid-rappel, swap a memory card while treading water, or use a camel as a light stand. To see more of his work please visit his studio website blurMEDIAphotography, or follow him on Twitter, 500px, Google Plus or YouTube. JP’s photography is available for licensing at Stocksy United.

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Before I even start this article, we need to add a disclaimer – if you love charts and graphs and full resolution comparisons, or if you have a visceral emotional attachment to your gear and/or need validation for your purchase decisions from the internet – you might want to move on to the next post.

However, if you are willing to have a rational discussion on why it might not be the best idea to ditch your current DSLR for a shiny new Sony A7R II, please continue reading!

The release of the Sony AR7 II has generated quite a bit of excitement in the photography community (to say the least).

And for good reason, looking at the specs, its a beast of a camera – everything you could possibly want.

However, in this article I am going to explain why I am not switching to a Sony A7R II (or a Fuji X-T1 either for that matter) any time soon.

You Are Investing In A Camera Platform Not A Camera

Like I said in the introduction – I see my photography gear as tools that I need to do a job.

I have no allegiance to one brand of hammer versus another, although there are certain hammers that I personally like to swing more than others.

When it comes to cameras, it is important to remember that you are investing in an entire camera platform – not just a camera.

The platform includes the camera body and lenses yes – but also strobes, radio triggers, cables, batteries, third party lenses and other add-ons…right on down to software like Lightroom, card recovery apps and various smartphone apps.

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Up until recently, I used three separate camera platforms that I had acquired over the years for various reasons.

I had a whole lineup of Nikon DX format (APS-C cropped sensor) camera bodies and lenses (my initial investment in pro photography gear), a selection of Canon full frame camera bodies and lenses (used mostly for time lapse and outdoor work) and Nikon FX format (full frame) camera bodies and lenses (my current preferred system).

While the Nikon DX and FX systems were somewhat compatible – they at least used the same cables, radio triggers and strobes, they had different batteries and of course lenses.

I also had to have an entire separate set of Canon lenses, batteries, cables etc. (although for the most part I didn’t have much trouble using my Canon camera with Nikon strobes).

(If you’re interested – here is a little more info on my gear and how I worked with both Canon and Nikon systems.)

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While each platform had its benefits, it became a colossal pain in the ass to keep everything straight.

Things as simple as remembering to pack the right shutter release cable for the right brand of camera or keeping track of what mode my radio triggers had to be in to work with what camera/strobe combination – it doesn’t sound like much, but when you rely on your gear to make you money – things like that become a real mental drag over time – as well as being a productivity bottleneck.

So, I just spent the last year selling all of my superfluous camera gear on eBay, and using the cash to re-invest in my preferred system: the Nikon D800/D810 and a full set of FX primes.

If I need a lens or piece of gear that I don’t own, I rent it.

I can’t tell you how much moving to a single camera platform has simplified my workflow!

Which brings me back to the Sony A7R II.

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Sony Is Not A Complete Camera Platform

Sony makes great cameras yes – but I just don’t see Sony as a complete professional camera platform.

First of all, Sony is notoriously protective of its proprietary components – meaning third party developers such as lens, strobe, radio trigger manufacturers and software developers have a very hard time releasing Sony compatible products.

And when they do release something that is Sony compatible or if you can find an adapter – it often comes with a compromise and doesn’t quite work right.

The lineup of Sony brand lenses for the A7R II is limited at best – and while you can use Nikon or Canon adapters, again there is a compromise involved (and another unnecessary piece of gear to purchase and keep track of).

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There Is No Market For Used Sony Gear

If you’re just interested in buying a new camera, this might not be something you think about – but if you’re in it for the long haul, being able to buy and sell used gear is a very important consideration.

Having just spent a year buying and selling a ton of used gear, I can say with certainty that Nikon and Canon branded gear is way way easier to buy and sell used than any other manufacturer.

If you are selling Nikon or Canon branded equipment – especially lenses – you will be able to sell them much easier and for a much higher value than anything made by third parties.

The same goes for purchasing used Nikon or Canon gear.  There is a huge used market that goes back decades – so if you’d rather save some significant cash and invest in used gear, or even just open box / store demos, finding name brand Nikon or Canon equipment is easy.

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But Mirrorless Is So Much Smaller

Meh, a bit I guess.

If you did buy a Sony A7R II, unless you drop another few grand on lenses too, you’re probably going to be using your existing full size Nikon / Canon lenses anyway (at least in the short term).

Strobes, triggers and everything else are the same size, so really its only the body of the A7R II that saves any size or weight.

Plus you’re going to have to carry 10 extra spare batteries.

Is that marginal size difference really worth investing in an entirely new camera platform?

(Now if Nikon / Canon would just get off their duffs and release a D810 / 5D Mk III without a pentaprism…).

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But What If I Just Want A Camera?

If I didn’t have any existing gear and I was in the market for a pro-level camera – I would certainly give the Sony A7R II a solid look.

I mean, the specs are killer – 42 MP full frame, internal 4K video and S-Log2, 5-axis image stabilization, tilting LCD, built in wifi, crazy high ISO low light performance.

What’s not to like?

(Even if there are some quirks in real world use…)

I think the Sony A7R II is especially attractive to photographers who would like to incorporate video into their business model – as Ben VonWong points out in his review, it is a fantastic tool for video.

However, for professional still photography, given the above, I think I would still rather invest in either the Nikon or Canon DSLR camera platform (I personally see them as essentially equivalent).

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Why Do You Hate Sony?

I don’t.

My first serious digital camera was a Sony Cybershot F717.

I loved that camera – I took one of my favorite photos of all time with it (below).

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Magnesium alloy body, Zeiss f/2.0, 38-190mm 5x optical zoom, 5 megapixels, predator style hologram laser focusing, video and even see-in-the-dark infrared!

At the time it was super innovative – just like the Sony A7R II is today.

It also took Sony proprietary memory cards that cost double the price of generic memory (at $1 per megabyte!).

It only worked with a Sony proprietary strobe (which was a very expensive piece of junk) and it wasn’t compatible with any third party accessories (like a simple shutter release cable for example).

I don’t love everything about Nikon / Canon either – but there is something to be said for flexibility and continuity.

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What Do You Think?

Are you ready to ditch your DSLR for a Sony A7R II?

Is Sony really a viable camera platform on par with Nikon or Canon?

If you’ve already jumped onto the bandwagon – what has been your impression of the Sony mirrorless line?

Does this entire article sound a little too much like Ken Rockwell :)

Please leave a comment and let us know your thoughts.

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108 responses to “Why I’m Not Ditching My DSLR for a Sony A7R II”

  1. Tuukka Ervasti Avatar
    Tuukka Ervasti

    I have only ever ordered various third-party accessories (batteries, chargers, cable releases, radio triggers and flashes) for my Sony mirrorless cameras and I have never once had an issue. Honestly, never, they all work.

  2. stewart norton Avatar
    stewart norton

    Nice article, I like the way you have looked at the bigger picture of it not being about one fantastic camera. Personally I have so much invested in my current system and the ability to buy a lot of cheap accessories is a real bonus (as is the ability to shoot for hours on one battery). The Sony may be a great camera but I get the results I want from the gear I have and cannot think of any reason to swap (unless I wake up one morning and decide I want to shoot video at 56,000 iso) ;-)

    1. cbenci Avatar
      cbenci

      Agreed Stewart.

      I have invested in the Canon ecosystem and don’t feel the need to change any time soon.

      My clients don’t care what I use to shoot, as long as the finished product what they were after.

      I know my gear, what it’s strengths and limitations are. I have all the L lenses I need to make my living and when the time is right, I’ll take my lenses with me to a mirrorless system.

      Battery life, AF speed and reliability are paramount when I shoot events and I have that right now with my Dslr bodies

  3. John Williamson Avatar
    John Williamson

    “I can say with certainty that Nikon and Canon branded gear is way way easier to buy and sell used than any other manufacturer.” You nailed it! (Y)

    1. David J Engel Avatar
      David J Engel

      not in germany

  4. Arn Avatar
    Arn

    I don’t understand how Sony can only propose a stupid lossy raw format, this is a pure non-sense.

  5. Dirk Beichert Avatar
    Dirk Beichert

    +1

  6. Zlatko Batistich Avatar
    Zlatko Batistich

    Some valid points, but some exaggeration too. It’s not a complete platform, but it’s growing. There are some really good lenses. The system is not that proprietary as there are 3rd party flashes, lenses, batteries, etc. And almost any lens from any manufacturer can be adapted, so in that sense the system is more open than any other. There is a used market (eBay of course and various photo forums). And it really is a smaller & lighter system if you choose small lenses.

    1. Theuns Verwoerd Avatar
      Theuns Verwoerd

      Things Sony doesn’t have (AFAIK, feel free to fill in the blanks):
      1. Cheap third-party TTL flashes.
      2. Native f/2.8 zoom.
      3. Native ultrazoom.
      4. Third-party TTL triggers.

      On top of that, the smaller body’s ergonomics work very badly with heavy lenses, battery life is rather painful, and many of the really useful DSLR firmware features are just absent.

      So her points are all valid – and will remain so until Sony’s system grows up fully. Right now it’s a teenager.

      1. JP Danko Avatar
        JP Danko

        Canon is by far the most supported camera platform out there – as a Nikon user I am always surprised how often there is a specialty piece of gear, or software or an app that I want to use – only to find out that its Canon only – (Magic Lantern comes to mind as an example and incidentally this is the reason I went out and bought a Canon in the first place). The problem is infinitely worse with other brands – Sony, Fuji, Olympus, Pentax… I’ve gone down that road enough times that I know the hassle involved is not worth my time.

        1. Bokeh Avatar
          Bokeh

          Magic Lantern is a ‘firmware hack’, meaning that fuctionallity is subject to change at Canon’s whim…

    2. Zlatko Batistich Avatar
      Zlatko Batistich

      The Nissin Di700a is a $259 3rd party flash for Sony with TTL and built-in radio control like Canon’s 600EX-RT. It’s new and not generally in stock yet, but it may fill in one of those blanks.

    3. Andrew Goh Wei Li Avatar
      Andrew Goh Wei Li

      they are first company to give in body stablisher for other lens.

    4. Zlatko Batistich Avatar
      Zlatko Batistich

      For native ultra-zoom, there’s a 24-240mm, if that qualifies. I don’t know whether it’s any good.

  7. Filipe Bonito Avatar
    Filipe Bonito

    well it’s really annoying that the photo of the article talking about DSLR is not a DSLR

    1. JP Danko Avatar
      JP Danko

      See explanation below…and thanks for clicking.

    2. JP Danko Avatar
      JP Danko

      It’s a TRAP! I have noticed that people who are really into gear tend to take photography very literally – so in that sense that photo provokes the reaction “hey that’s not even a digital camera – I’m going to click on that because this guy must be full of crap! ” A little bit more of an artistic observation might be “hey the lead photo features a once ubiquitous camera from a famous global manufacturer that’s now bankrupt because they couldn’t compete with a new smaller, more agile format and refused to innovate, losing out to two uppity Japanese camera companies…hmm mm that’s interesting”

    3. Filipe Bonito Avatar
      Filipe Bonito

      well both Franke & Heidecke and Rollei-Werk are still around…

  8. yathink2011 Avatar
    yathink2011

    The article seems to be written by a DSLR Company Employee who is grasping for straws instead of discussing changing technology.

    1. Bokeh Avatar
      Bokeh

      The only ‘real’ innovating technology is in the EVF… something I’m sure Canikon can & will introduce in future body designs, otherwise there is absolutely nothing I can’t do with a DSLR both faster, easier and while building on my ‘kit’ rather than breaking the bank purchasing a whole new kit…

      1. There_Is_No_Spoon Avatar
        There_Is_No_Spoon

        You know, I keep reading this for a couple of years now… “CaNikon CAN/WILL/MAYBE/SOMEDAY/SOMEHOW/WHEN-TIME-IS-RIGHT/DEFINITELY, bla bla bla fuckitty-bla, go mirrorless”. And they’ll do it OH-SO-MUCH BETTER! Okay, f-ing do it then! Until then STFU with that joke of an EOS M3 junk, lol.

        Meanwhile Sony puts their $$ where their mouth is and actually DELIVERS new tech in flesh. Is it perfect? Heck no. I own the complete FE body/lens lineup now and it’s expensive as $hit and some of it is still lackluster, but overall it’s bananas! A7Rii is dope. All their Zeiss primes and some zooms are dope. Will it make my shots look that much better online at 1,500×1,000 vs. your DSLR? Probably not. That’s not the point. What is the point is that now there’s new tech that’s innovative and you and me have better options than ever before :)

        1. Richard Avatar
          Richard

          Isn’t really you thats the dope !

          1. There_Is_No_Spoon Avatar
            There_Is_No_Spoon

            But you already knew that :)

  9. DJ Bravo Avatar
    DJ Bravo

    ffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff

  10. Bordain Avatar
    Bordain

    This Author is writing an article based on someone else opinion instead of testing the camera himself.The author seems to not used a Sony camera since he bought his first camera in 86′. Fact checking is very loose; Sony camera system is complete as any other system; you can find third party triggers, lighting, and many other accessories, if it wasn’t complete then how can professionals use it? Of-course there are more accessories for Nikon & Canon; they have been the standard for a long time. Sony is bringing innovation to their cameras at a price point most pros can afford. Canon & Nikon is doing the opposite. The bottom line is that you can take a great picture with any type of pro-camera, in-fact photographers have been taking great photos long before all this new technology came about. If you have a camera system that works for you, then you can stick with it and continue to produce great photos but as consumers we have choices so if you feel like upgrading your camera system to Sony, don’t be shamed into keeping your old system by loose articles like this. Rent the Sony system and try it out, if you like it then you can switch, if you don’t then keep your current system; it’s a win, win situation.

    1. Andoz Invicktograda Randoz Avatar
      Andoz Invicktograda Randoz

      wait price point most pros can afford ….. ha ha ha ( i do own a a7mk2 NOT a7rmk2 ) … the price is higher ( for the a7r2) than a d810 body … as for the lenses … they all seem more expensive especially compared to Nikon lenses … and the sizes of the lenses are EXACTLY the same …. the real advantage is compact primes ( which are relatively slow ) paired with these smaller bodies i love the 35 f 2.8 on the a7 mk2 ,,, and pretty much hate the 16-35 f4 on the same camera … that thing belongs on a d810 or d 750. i use the sony as a holiday travel cam , sure many folk will switch but i think that’s got to do more with gear lust than need.

    2. Scott Edwards Avatar
      Scott Edwards

      Innovation! Agree… thanks for your post.

    3. Simonh2159 Avatar
      Simonh2159

      i have used the new sony and i agree with the author plus i find the sony images look artificial over processed not realistic at all reminds me of a CGI movies just me but i hated the sony and missed my d800e

    4. Hugh Briss Avatar
      Hugh Briss

      LOL, Sony cameras now require basic features to be purchased as “apps” after you blow a ton of cash on the actual camera. Sony still has terrible highlight rolloff in every cam they make. Sony just plain sucks. A lot of the video I see that demonstrates how “awesome” these expensive Sony cameras are look mediocre at best. Sony is like the Apple of imaging products: it’s way overpriced for a lackluster product and the whole ecosystem is designed to nickel and dime you to death.

  11. Aleš Krejčí Avatar
    Aleš Krejčí

    My biggest problem with Sony so far is that they lack fast primes for reasonable money. Sure Zeiss primes are excellent and most time better than their similarly priced DSLR counterparts. But they are not that fast and cheap, what I want is 50mm F1,4 for under 500USD etc, it does not need to be 35+ mpix sharp. Then I am totally in. I am mirrorless user from the begining, I am used to EVF and I prefer it over OVF, but Sony just needs to provide these lenses and/or Sigma and Tamron need to provide these in small package. Huge lens + adaptor is not really the way to go.

  12. David Harpe Avatar
    David Harpe

    Really tired of hearing people proclaim “I’m ditching THIS for THAT” as if it’s some big deal. Use the gear you feel comfortable using for the type of images you’re trying to capture. No universal right answer. We’re fortunate to live in an era of many choices. Gear wars are so last decade. :-)

  13. Matt Owen Avatar
    Matt Owen

    In order to go full Ken Rockwell you will need to proclaim every camera you mention as WORLD’S BEST in some incredibly narrow category, and tell us you’re too busy making money to zoom to 100%, ever. So I think you’re OK there.

    1. Esstee Avatar
      Esstee

      omg your comment almost made me pee my pants from laughter :p

    2. Larry L Avatar
      Larry L

      I like Ken’s reviews as sort of a general overview from a pragmatic approach. He can be funny. It was the comment that all the SLR’s now look like a dog plop until the Df, a real camera, came out, that got me to buy the Df. I wanted a real camera not a dog plop. LOL.

  14. Ann O'Loughlin Bertulli Avatar
    Ann O’Loughlin Bertulli

    I have been using a Sony all along and would love to swap to the smaller body but now they are not even compatible with my old lenses without an overpriced adapter.

  15. JP Danko Avatar
    JP Danko

    It’s a TRAP! I have noticed that people who are really into gear tend to take photography very literally – so in that sense that photo provokes the reaction “hey that’s not even a digital camera – I’m going to click on that because this guy must be full of crap! ” A little bit more of an artistic observation might be “hey the lead photo features a once ubiquitous camera from a famous global manufacturer that’s now bankrupt because they couldn’t compete with a new smaller, more agile format and refused to innovate, losing out to two uppity Japanese camera companies…hmm mm that’s interesting”

    1. Like Pics Avatar
      Like Pics

      Not sure why you needed to post this twice. What might be more reasonable for a comment on Sony is that they bought a Japanese Company that was going out of business because they could not compete, based a series of SLR’s on that technology then after losing marketshare and customers, bailed on it and the customers that bought in to it so they could drive new business with a new format. Although there is a little new technology in mirrorless, it is minimal. The A7RII has the backlit CMOS sensor which is very cool but dynamic range seems to be limited. I cannot switch because all of this new technology doesn’t work for the way I shoot and what I need to capture.

      1. JP Danko Avatar
        JP Danko

        Its was a Facebook comment vs blog comment thing – sorry.

  16. Aleksander Miz Warski Avatar
    Aleksander Miz Warski

    Nobody mentions AF speed. Its not there yet, ITS NOT EVEN CLOSE.

    1. Thinkinginpictures Avatar
      Thinkinginpictures

      It’s ok. Plenty shooting weddings with it. Not like a wedding is a horse race anyhow.

    2. Esstee Avatar
      Esstee

      A7R ii is not a sports camera.

  17. Francis Bacon Avatar
    Francis Bacon

    DSLR??? Looks line a classic TLR to me.

  18. Michael Chastain Avatar
    Michael Chastain

    I think it’s obvious when you buy into a relatively new system there will be some shortcomings. But you really don’t go into what those shortcomings are, nor do you examine what the benefits of the new system are.

    So it’s an article to be cautious, which everybody should already know, without really adding anything to the discussion. This article needs some meat on its bones.

    1. Torben Photography Avatar
      Torben Photography

      Hello @michaelchastain:disqus, Having gone through just this process last year (research, platform assessment, investment choice), and having lived with Minolta and now newer Sony equipment, I find Danko’s observations are valid.

      As far as ‘meat,’ I think he hit the core points. Most of them anyway. He probably could’ve written a lot more…but it just would’ve been ‘more.’ Besides, plenty of other articles out there if you need more.

  19. Kay O. Sweaver Avatar
    Kay O. Sweaver

    Sony is the Apple of cameras, they create amazing, cutting edge technology, but they’re selfish and refuse to play nicely with the rest of the industry. They will change mounts, file formats and standards at a whim and if your gear is more than a couple of years old good luck getting any repair service or support. I love the technology in the A7R and the A7S, but Canikon have much better repair and service records, more accessories, more rental gear, etc.

    It looks like Sony is starting to be serious about their photo/video offerings, and that’s exciting, they are indeed pushing the industry into an exciting future technology wise, but I’m not ready to trust them with my livelihood just yet.

  20. Paul Menard Avatar
    Paul Menard

    hmm, u forgot to mention their indifference to a mount and those who bought into it, and the shittyness of terrible mis shoe.
    saying that i like my a77ii quite alot

  21. Frank Nazario Avatar
    Frank Nazario

    my business is photograpy … taken to the bare business of it… im not to impress clients with big dslr bodies or super mega lenses or super primes… i own a very modest setup 1 basic body 24 megapixel 2 lenses that cover from 18 to 200mm and 4 speedlights with remote trigger… that setup is enough for me to pay my bills … live doing what i love and having repeat customers and referrals. i am not in a position of blowing 4k in photo gear to have my clients ask for a print book that is going to be printed at 240 ppi at best.

    It’s a business, treat it as such… i use the most affordable means of delivering a high quality product that will exceed my clients expectations accompanied by superb service.
    The camera is just part of it…

    Don’t believe me?
    Grab a hi res photo from the web taken by the sony a7 r2 a very cool one … now grab a very cool photo of the D3300 with the kit lens (wich by the way have been displayed in the Smithsonian)
    Print them both on a nice printer at 240ppi … you WONT notice the difference and if you do.. you have spent tooooo much time in DPReview.com

    1. Torben Photography Avatar
      Torben Photography

      Best comment of the group. My own kit, while growing with time, is modest and approached with the pragmatism of needing to run a business with it. I enjoy what I have, deliver good stuff, and like to think I’m fairly open in my perspectives.

    2. mrz80 Avatar
      mrz80

      Pragmatic has to be the rule of the day on a hobbyist budget. :) The wife just signed off on my first new cam in 10 years – a refurb D7000 w/18-200VR. I was lugging a D50, 28-80D, 70-210, and a 50/1.8 for low light. Now I’m down to two, and most of the time I can do w/o the 50. No more big bag full of lenses and hoo-ha. No more dust on the sensor from changing lenses. Yay! Freedom! :)

    3. Thinkinginpictures Avatar
      Thinkinginpictures

      Awesome comment. I salute you sir.

    4. Mark Avatar
      Mark

      I have to confess that a couple of months ago I took my old EOS 20D + EF-S 17-85 to the park with the kids and some of the photos out of that “shoot” blew me away in terms of quality and spot-on focussing. I’d even venture to say that they beat out quite a few photos taken by my 5D MKII + 24-105 f4L whose focussing I’ve always found to be a little hit and miss at times. Given the right lighting conditions I often prefer my RX100M3 due to its compactness and abilities.

      1. kmlgraph Avatar
        kmlgraph

        I too own a Canon 20D and the quality from the 8 meg sensor (not a typo) are excellent. I still have wedding client photos printed to 16×20 that are tack sharp with outstanding skin tones. Introduced in 2004, the 20D is and was an under rated camera.

    5. Luis del Valle Avatar
      Luis del Valle

      You’ve hit the nail on the head. Keep it simple, do what you want to do with the gear you need. 99.9% of clients wouldn’t know a Canon from a Nikon to a Sony, let alone the cost of DSLR bodies; they don’t care. What they do care about is that the photographer is going to work with them to produce beautiful results.

    6. Hugh Briss Avatar
      Hugh Briss

      Lately I’ve been running around trying out really old digital cameras that cost practically nothing compared to when they were new and a pretty big deal. I’m shocked at how many of these ~2003 vintage 4.0 megapixel cameras can take photos which hold their own against brand new dual-pixel AF ISO 25600 DSLRs. Obviously a 15-year-old CCD with a max ISO of 400 can’t beat a brand new DSLR’s capabilities and resolution, but I’m starting to realize that they don’t really have to. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/f78b2054b44297f5561f30b5de3d493a0175b67d51108a52d8b978747fe8a16b.jpg

  22. djidji Avatar
    djidji

    I somehow feel the same – having started from the f707 and then moved to Canon gear instead – some 12y ago. From an non-pro point of view jumping between systems seems even tougher. I considered going for the Sony earlier this summer but then refreshed my Canon body again, but I was biased, I give you that. Imagine if you’re in the beginning of your photo journey today, with no tons of cash to throw at vendors, which way would you go? A Rebel-series/Nikon equiv with a kit lens, a fast prime and you’re set. Sony has a long way to go, still, but it is good they are trying and making those other Shoguns sweat in the process.

  23. Rocco Saya Avatar
    Rocco Saya

    Every tool has its strengths and weakness. Honestly, your article has some truth but also some untruths. That said, the whole premise of your article is silly. People aren’t going to just ditch their dslr and whole platform as you say, and just go mirrorless. being the professional that you say you are, why wouldn’t you get yourself an A7r ii, and keep your other equipment? I have a 5d mark iii with a slew of canon glass and flashes. they all work with a7r ii! This fact alone allows those on the Canon platform a win-win situation. It isn’t all or nothing, and on top of it you contradict yourself! You end your article saying you want flexibility, and the fact of the matter is, the a7r ii is MORE flexible than either Canon or Nikon! Mind you, a7r ii isn’t perfect, but it’s an amazing , quirky, even buggy camera. Your missing out not having it in your toolbag.

  24. fahfah Avatar
    fahfah

    As usual, this article is based on stereotypes and myths that developed early on, not facts. First of all, Sony is based on Minolta which has a rich and LONG history. The old Sony/Minolta hotshoe whine isn’t valid any more on the a7 stuff he refers to. The mentality that “someone told me Sony sucks, so therefore Sony sucks” is tired. Read Frank Doorhof’s blog if you want an honest assessment.

    1. Torben Photography Avatar
      Torben Photography

      I understand your perspective @fahfah:disqus . My perspective comes from having been part of that Minolta-come-Sony crowd, as some of my favorite Minolta lenses reached retirement, I had to go through the full reassessment process last year.
      One point I’ll make, each time you change something like lens mount design, you break the value of that ‘rich and long history.’

      Having done tons of research, talking with folks, and some hands-on, the core article is reasonably reflective of what I found myself. I am very fond of my Sony, love it’s EVF (didn’t at first), but for many of the reasons Danko highlights, it lost out to another brand for my purposes.

  25. Ralph Hightower Avatar
    Ralph Hightower

    Dang! $3200 for the body? Well, it is full frame and 40-something megapixels. That’s more money and megapixels than my 5DMk III w/ 24-105 f4L.
    The lens portfolio for Canon and Nikon is unrivaled as well as their accessories, such as flash.
    Some members of the local camera club have switched from DSLR to Micro 4/3; I was the last holdout to go DSLR when I added the 5D to my Canon film cameras: A-1 and F-1N.
    Yes, the less weight of mirrorless is a bonus, but not at the expense of lens options and accessories or battery life. I photographed a practice round of a PGA major tournament and for 7-8 hours, the battery capacity of the 5D powered the entre time was 60% remaining on one battery (I removed the dual battery grip to save weight).

  26. Jonas Astorson Avatar
    Jonas Astorson

    ZZZzzz…

  27. RakSiam Avatar
    RakSiam

    I totally agree about systems being the key. And it’s also true that some tools are better for some things than others. Personally I moved the m43 because most of my photography is travel stuff and I got tired of lugging my Nikon gear around Asia. For me the smaller body of the E-M1 and especially the smaller, yet high quality lenses was the reason to jump. I’ve hung onto some of my Nikon gear for shooting sports because that’s the one thing my Oly doesn’t do well. But I’m hoping future bodies will improve that aspect as well.

  28. Veydron Avatar
    Veydron

    ..

    1. Esstee Avatar
      Esstee

      Realizes A7R ii actually has 14bit lossless raw :)

  29. NotAfb Avatar
    NotAfb

    EVF sucks for fast moving action. I “upgraded” an OVF (A700) to an EVF (A77) and boy was I sorry. Slow as heck. Switched to Nikon and couldn’t be happier. No lag and stupid slideshow effect. If current implementations are only marginally better than the A77, I won’t even consider switching. Sony went all in with EVF and I went all out to find something better. Easy enough to do.

  30. Scott Edwards Avatar
    Scott Edwards

    The Sony A7RII is my first-ever full-frame. I shot with a D810 for two months… didn’t own it (borrowed it) and really liked the results but have in two weeks learned more from Sony than others ever and applaud their innovation and fearlessness to wrap in a multitude of benefits and features (hello, Canon). I also fell in love with the camera. It was easy for me because it’s my first time to go pro. Batteries – you greatly exaggerate; shot all day on two batteries. Would have needed a third if I had been shooting video. But you simply turn it off when done; on when you want to shoot. It easily becomes a habit. The lens are now pretty abundant. Go back and look again. And Canon lens are working exceedingly well with the A7RII. Okay, maybe there’s no 500 mm and maybe not a 500mm per Tony Northrup…
    Folks have said, Oh but Canon and Nikon are masters of dynamic range; hmmm, not so sure anymore. Go on flickr and check it out. And regarding your reference to the Cybershot – please admit that Sony has come a long way since then. Please. Having written this, I understand your position. I’d probably not switch if I had invested so much in either system. Further, I think we’re close to reaching the point where you really can’t go wrong with any path. Technology just keeps climbing the mountain. To me, a 42 MP camera was something that only the big boys who could spend $20-50K could ever have… now I’m living the dream with a camera that has incredible range, is more user friendly (for me) and more packed with features. Nikon, Canon, Sony. Love ’em all.

    1. JP Danko Avatar
      JP Danko

      Ya know, I tell people that all the time when they ask what camera they should get – it honestly doesn’t matter – they’re all awesome – forget the specs and go into your local mom & pop camera store, try a bunch out and choose the one that seems to work for you the best. Awesome to hear the A7RII is working for you – really that’s all that matters!

      1. Scott Edwards Avatar
        Scott Edwards

        So true! Couldn’t agree more. Thanks for the kind comment.

    2. Brian Cox Avatar
      Brian Cox

      I personally find Sony sensors to be masters of dynamic range. I find with the type of work I’m doing now, the Canon 7dii is my go-to camera. This is because of ergonomics, AF, and battery life. I actually have less room in post to play around with it. On the other hand, I find Canon seems to get better colours right out of the camera. The white balance and skin tones are generally spot-on.

      For landscape and nature, my Canon would be outdone by even the Nikon D3200. Sony sensors (especially in Nikon bodies) are outstanding at low ISO. Tons of dynamic range and lots of play in the colours in post.

      I have personally used a Nikon D5100, D3200, D600, D810, Sony A7, A7ii, Canon 5diii, Olympus OM-D E-M5, and Mamiya ZD. I currently own a Canon 7dii. I’ve handled many more. But the list above are what I have actually spent time using. My personal fav for handling is the Canon 7dii or 5diii, but my preference for the final product is the venerable Mamiya ZD with its 22 mp 48 x 36 mm sensor that tops out at 200 ISO (just don’t try shooting it at above 100 ISO).

      I tried the Sony A7ii for a few months. I didn’t like the layout of the controls. It felt too kludgy to me. It made beautiful images. It just wasn’t a good fit. It’s a matter of personal taste, really. I agree completely with JP Danko’s comment below. Try a bunch of different ones first. Go with the one that makes the most sense to you. They all make gorgeous images once you learn the craft.

      1. Scott Edwards Avatar
        Scott Edwards

        Nice comments, Brian. Great shooting to you! Update since I posted a year ago. I’ve learned A LOT since this post, particularly throughout this year. I’ve now done several professional shoots (last 60 days) and have delivered some joy for some folks. I’m still diving in and loving the work of so many people, regardless of stripes. I don’t know why folks get SO hung up with brand loyalties but I do certainly understand brand and brand loyalty, particularly for me with the 35 Zeiss Distagon and the 85 1.8 Zeiss Batis, both of which I’m very pleased. And I better understand the newish elements of Sony’s journey. For instance, I am pretty sure I want ProFoto lighting but TTL (ease) ain’t ready for Sony users so I’m limping along. Having said that, I am totally digging being able to use so many lens platforms. I’ve pulled out an old Minolta lens and since added two for fun, including a very apt performer the Minolta Rokkor-X MD 50 1.4. I’m using two respectable performers from Nikon (50 1.4D, which is actually quite nice, and a vintage ’71 AF 24 2.8, which I also picked up for an embarrassing $30). And I am awaiting an adapter for a ’59 Leitz Summaron that I snagged at an estate sale. Peace and may the colors of late summer bless you!!

      2. cartube Avatar
        cartube

        Had an A7II and although I was happy with the results, I hated every minute with this camera. How can a manufacture release to market a camera with such bad aperture and shutter dials? If it only had an DSLR body… (I have more to complain about such as the grainy EVF… but the bottom line is just bad ergonomic what takes the fun out of taking an photo). That is why I believe the A9 is going to be a huge frailer, no pro would like to hold this camera.

    3. S J Avatar
      S J

      I agree, Sony is leaping and bounding past many of the other more established brands. My Sony cameras are brilliant and beautiful. (I also love Fujifilm too)

  31. Captain Megaton Avatar
    Captain Megaton

    Well, yes – if you are always carrying around a truckload of gear anyway, there is no downside to packing a D810 (or two) instead of an A7 and plenty of upsides if you are relying on a lot of third party and/or used lenses and lighting accessories to bulk out your kit.

    I think the discussion at this point would be better served examining if the A7 is a better camera, and if so why. Then people can decide for themselves if those advantages are important to them, and they can check for themselves if the accessories they need are available or not.

  32. steven_nc Avatar
    steven_nc

    How many photos have you seen in the last year need, or dare I ask, deserve 42 megapixels?

  33. TerraPhoto Avatar
    TerraPhoto

    Nice, “fresh perspective” in the current cloud of Sony over-hype. Having recently had to buy two adapter cables to make get a Sony made accessory to work with my Sony video camera, you are so right on with some of Sony’s shortcomings as a system. And, I fully expect both Nikon and Canon to release their own mirrorless full frame cameras soon enough. And, while Canon may not make their current lenses compatible (they’ve done it before), I doubt Nikon would ditch the F mount and its massive installed user base. I own an X-T1 system as well as Nikon and love it, but the workhorse is the Nikon gear and I’m fully invested.

  34. Lacknafta Avatar
    Lacknafta

    Re: continuity and huge used market that goes back decades: how would any other platform compete unless someone first went back in time and inserted that platform around when Canon cropped up?

  35. Heinz Puder Avatar
    Heinz Puder

    You say you use 3 different Camera systems. None is complete. Then you blame SONY their camera system would be not complete.

    My conclusion: you are crazy…

    BTW: I started with CANON FD system. Had spend about 10k $ in it and what did CANON: they dropped FD and continued EF mount. None of my lenses was usable on the new mount. I call this proprietary.

    Sony is on the market since about 6 years with Minolta inherited gear. The FF A7 line is a new development that exists since Nov 2013 – less than 2 years. What do you expect? Miracles?

    CANON needed 20 years to become complete, no development since 5 years.

    Enjoy your gear but stop bashing SONY. You never used any A7 – shut up!

  36. Mike Avatar
    Mike

    Post would have been better if you were not so defensive. For better or worse, just state your reasons.

  37. Bill Worley Avatar
    Bill Worley

    Last year I choose the 810 over the a7R for pretty much the reasons you mentioned. No regrets.

  38. Joshua Key Avatar
    Joshua Key

    I appreciate your input as I am in the market for a full frame camera system. I already have the sony A65 APC with several A mount lenses. I rented the Canon 5dS R with two Ziess lenses a 28mm and a 100mm and I still feel like I can do better work with the A7rII I only need an adapter for my A-mount lenses and I’m off running. I think that we are seeing the start of Sony becoming a contender in camera platforms. As the demand increases for Third party gear it will come. Ultimately its all about getting the shot no matter what the system. I agree if you are already invested heavily in a system, then its not worth the change for any new camera for that matter.

  39. Naptunian Avatar
    Naptunian

    This seems like an opinion piece and I can understand why JP Danko wouldn’t want to invest in an entirely new system. It can be expensive or it can take time to sell off your current gear. I’ve switched over from Canon to Sony about 5 years ago. I’ve found it quite easy to sell Sony gear on Craigslist and Kijiji. Sometimes I outgrow lenses and bodies or sometimes I find I just didn’t use a particular lens beyond the first few months. In either case, the statement that “there is no market for used Sony gear” hasn’t been my experience. I can agree that the used market for Canon and Nikon exists. I’ve used it myself. I have no doubt that Canon/Nikon used markets are larger. Their systems have been around longer than Sony’s e-mount system. However, to say that no used market exists for Sony isn’t true.

  40. MonkeySpanner Avatar
    MonkeySpanner

    I think much of the gripes
    about the A7 series are from pros who are used to CaNikon gear. The A7
    series is different. It is smaller and doesn’t have the all day long
    ergonomics of a big FF CaNikon body. So you will either be able to live with that,
    or you will write long web articles about how you hate it. I am in the camp of thinking Sony should definitely
    produce a FF e-mount body that is similar to the A99. I don’t hate the A7 series – but I do think
    that Sony needs to produce a body that will be more to the liking of wedding
    photographers.

  41. lordchris Avatar
    lordchris

    I guess I can consider myself lucky that I don’t have to make a choice. I’m retired, have no responsibilities in life and live frugally on SS allowing me to use my work pension for disposable income. I have great Canon gear including a 5D MKII (soon to be on eBay) and a 5DSR with a nice selection of IS lenses but for day to day shooting I prefer my Sony A7r which I am upgrading this week to a A7rII. I love both set ups but they have different uses. The Canon is great with long lenses for airshows in the UK which I visit every year to catch up with family. The Sony is a great landscape/cityscape camera for travel work.

    1. thundrrd Avatar
      thundrrd

      You hit the nail on the head and have given the reason most Pro’s – I use the term lightly – have not switched.
      I use D810 – I invested first with Nikon years ago, but could easily have been a Canon as I believe they are both great systems – and I rented and used the Sony A7rii for a month and loved the camera. Here are my feelings … the focus is not there yet (especially for what I do and that is focusing on things in motion) and I used up batteries so much faster than on a DSLR.
      Saying to just bring more batteries is not the answer. Batteries are an inconvenience to begin with and when you agree that Sony mirror less camera’s use more batteries – faster – that is a disadvantage that has to be solved or else Sony will make another great camera but they will still not have the chunk of the market that Canon has – sorry, Nikon has some of it too.
      For me I think the A7rii is a great camera and I love that Sony has a focus, but other than Jason Lanier – who always fails to say he is sponsored by Sony – you will not find a lot of Pro’s jumping yet. Some of it is investment in what they have, some of it is waiting for the hype to clear and see where Sony actually goes from here and some, as Tom Hogan has stated, is that Sony is not there yet, but they are really close.
      I can see why people would buy an A7 – any model – and I can see why they wouldn’t. Sony has a great idea and when they perfect it, look out.

  42. mrz80 Avatar
    mrz80

    Just ’cause you start to sound like Mr. Rockwell don’t mean you’re not making a valid point. Being able to use any lens in the collection with nearly any body (Ok, the 18-200 is a nonstarter on the F2AS but it *will* mount and index :) ) just. makes. sense.

  43. Chuckl8 Avatar
    Chuckl8

    While I’m convinced that the new Sony cameras are the greatest devices for photos ever produced, my past history with Sony’s service departments prevent me from ever spending a dime on their products.

    1. Mark Avatar
      Mark

      I recently had my RX100M3 fixed for a lens assembly issue. Took back to the store, received it back within 2 weeks fully repaired. Good as new. Only anecdotal, but can’t complain.

      1. Chuckl8 Avatar
        Chuckl8

        Mark: If I’d had only a couple of problems with Sony customer service, I’d lighten-up on them. But there were way too many issues, with Sony cameras and Sony laptops, for me to ever go back to them.

        The other problem is that Sony is so big that they can, and often do, dump a line of products, or a technology they’ve developed, without batting an eye or caring about those who have bought-into that product or tech.

        But those problems pale when compared to my REAL issue with Sony; … My Sony DVD player/recorder seems to think that everything I try to record is a “copyright protected” major film, and won’t allow me to copy it, even if it’s a video I shot. That’s simply an unforgivable “fox pass.” ;)

  44. kb Avatar
    kb

    Somebody whose chops I respect did all this evaluation and went with the Fuji, which isn’t even on your list. ????

  45. Robert Ramsey Avatar
    Robert Ramsey

    Something Hidden, Not Mentioned!……I am a Sony camera user. I have the A900, the A99 and a full collection of Minolta and Sony A Mount lenses…..I wanted this camera badly and went to buy it…..But when trying it with my Sony 70-210mm F2.8 lens with a 2X tele-converter and my Minolta 600mm F4 with a 1.4 X attached to the lens, this camera will not autofocus with the adaptor from A-Mount to E-Mount…….It even says it on the paperwork in the box with the camera…..”Do Not Attach Any Tele-converters Between The Lens And The Adaptor”!!!!!!…..Really Sony……They work just fine on even your cheapest DSLR……

  46. Paul Shoopman Avatar
    Paul Shoopman

    You are missing out on a great camera and system. Most of the things you said, I don’t agree with.
    I just sold a lot of Sony gear and very fast to be exact. Have you ever tried to buy a Sony lens on eBay? You had better be fast or it will be gone! I know because I just bought some as well. Sony doesn’t have as many lenses for the system yet but many more are on the way by the end of 2016. They have the highest rated Macro lens on the market.
    How many pieces of glass do you need anyway. I find myself using the same ones over and over.
    There are many companies making E-Mount lenses now and to have the option to add other brands via an adapter is a big thing. Most Canon lenses actually work better on this camera according to Luminous Landscape reviews.
    As far as Ken Rockwell, I don’t agree with his reviews mos of the time either. I did about 15 years ago but I can tell they are a little one sided now.

    I think you should give the camera a try before saying what you did. You may want one for yourself. Have a good day!

  47. Pro shooting digital since '92 Avatar
    Pro shooting digital since ’92

    I would buy into the Sony system if they had touch screens. Why on earth no touch screen?

    My old Canon 70d with dual pixel and touch screen which was able to pull very cinematic focus changes. 1080 max video res though. Another wonderful feature for stills: touch a point of interest and the very moment the camera attains focus it captures the image.

    Then I bought a Samsung NX1 for mostly shooting 4K to a PIX-E5H also capable of cinematic focus by touch. Again this camera allows you to touch a point of interest and capture the still image the moment it achieves focus.

    Now I’m shooting the Panasonic AG-DVX200 and a PIX-E5H still very happily taking advantage of cinematic touch to focus capabilities.

    I sounds as if the a7R II would be awesome in terms of face tracking etc but it is HOBBLED by not having a touch screen. How do you change faces (or point of interest) for focus, in mid-take, while shooting video? Abandon the camera’s intelligence and focus manually. Wait, what?

    After shooting video with several cameras capable of cinematic focus pulls by simply touching the screen I will NEVER go back to another focus method for run-n-gun documentary type shooting. The touch to focus during video significantly increases the percentage of good takes while allowing me more time to think about composition and point of view and less time thinking about focus.

    Before anyone comments about how they prefer physical buttons (the non-smartphone users among us I assume), please realize that all three of these cameras offer full normal functionality through button pressing, and they also allow important (imho) additional features which can’t be accomplished with button pushing.

    Hey Sony… anybody listening? Why no touchscreen?

  48. ThatPhotoManTrav Avatar
    ThatPhotoManTrav

    “What do you think?”

    I think your off base and haven’t really tried the camera that much. I personally think your facts are off and not real reasons to buy into a camera system that is amazing.

    In my tests, there are without a doubt, things on FX DSLR that are better. Their quicker depeding on the conditions, they have a slight edge in dynamic range depending on what you own. However (and most people are going to disagree), Sony shits on Canon & Nikon in many aspects. Resolution, quality, feel, modern features, low light performance (and yes, that includes the audio focus at night), high iso noise. The right lenses are stunning as well. The 55mm 1.8 Zeiss is wonderful. Not to mention the weather sealing and portability.

    The one thing I dont like from Sony is that SHIT battery life. It’s horrid. No denying that.

    You buy what works for you, and frankly, half your facts are wrong now. 14 bit lossless is now there. Sony is announcing a wide variety of new FE lenses in 2 weeks. You can use all your strobes with an inexpensive adapter (and with HSS), and You can find comprible 3rd party batteries that cost half of Sony’s.

    Good for you for finding what works for you, I fucking love my Sony’s. I’m glad I switched from Nikon.

  49. james Avatar
    james

    I’ve been shopping for a new camera, currently have a Canon 6D which I love. I want to upgrade to a large megapixel camera because I work in fine art photography making very large prints and this will allow me to crop more out but keep the resolution without interpolating. I searched the internet for comparison and found a video that shows the A7R2 does the best when it comes to ISO grain which is important for me, it is the least grainy of the canon 5dsr or nikon d810 when the shadows are brought up in post. Sure there are a few annoying things about the sony but image quality is important to me and I’ll just get used to the annoying things.

  50. Eric Leszkowicz Avatar
    Eric Leszkowicz

    Thank you for some honest discussion of the mirrorless debate.

    There are going to be advantages but the biggest advantage may be to get Nikon and Canon moving on some better features especially on the pro end.

    WHY is there not builtin in wifi in a 3-6000 camera?
    Mind blowing.
    Touchscreen? Nope.

    That may change the more popular things get heated with the mirrorless systems.

  51. spongemac Avatar
    spongemac

    here is the deal. I learned photography on a mirrorless sony nex5. My bro was taught by one of his buddy with a high-end nikon. Now, he shoots iPhone pics only and can careless about ISO, shutter speed, apertures. I am still in photography as a hobbyist. Just got a rx100 iv some time ago and loving it.

    Microsoft Word’s “what you see is what you get” changed how peeps do word processing. Can you imagine typing out a term paper on MS-DOS? This is what an EVF camera means to me. I can change a setting and see how my pic will be on the screen.. before i press the shutter! This is huge for a photography noob like me! I can see how peeps with years of experiences just “get it”… but to me, EVF cams are a game changer. It allowed me to appreciate photography, instead of running away from it.

    At the end of the day, camera and lenses are just tools. They should become an extension of ur creativity, instead of expensive paperweights around the house. Pick ur poison and go out to have fun!

    Oh, i read a ton of blogs, youtube vids, and explore on my own. I also read Ken Rockwell and I appreciate his perspectives.

  52. Elissa Dellosso Avatar
    Elissa Dellosso

    What a great article! It really put things in perspective. I’m an advanced hobbyist that owns a slew of Nikon lenses and the d750 & d810 and I had contemplated buying the Sony A7Rii, however, after assessing the pros and cons I decided to stick with what I have. This article confirmed that I made a rational decision. Thanks!

  53. Charles West Avatar
    Charles West

    I am a “camera gear junkie”, but without the credentials of being a professional (I still scratch my head at the results I get when using manual focus lenses). My congratulations on the wisdom of your contrarian article. It did open my mind to the Sony line of full-frame mirrorless cameras. My “jets” are a bit cooled on the purchase of an A7R purchase.

  54. SeanH Avatar
    SeanH

    I am looking forward to buying the a7r2. I have the a7s and it is excellent. I can use my canon lenses fd and ef. I can also use my Nikkor primes as well as my collection of manual m42 lenses. So there is a limitless number of lenses that can be used with these cameras. Of course I have to use adapters but they are cheap and can stay mounted on the lenses I use and it just becomes part of the lens so it isn’t like carrying extra gear. The lowlight capabilities are unmatched by any camera at any price right now. If I want to visit Notre Dame in Paris and shoot usable high res photos inside there are no other cameras that can do it better. I was fortunate enough to do this 5 years ago with the Canon 7d which did a good job and took some very nice HDR photos but I can only hope to return and see what the a7r2 could do. I like these cameras for that capability. I don’t always carry a flash and with these cameras flash can almost be used for effect rather than necessity. So that is one less piece of gear you have to have to take a useable photo. I do admit that I mostly use manual focus so quick auto focus is not essential to me but the A7s focuses reasonably quick with my Canon lenses.

  55. Rick Hemi Avatar
    Rick Hemi

    Wear and tear reliability is a priority, and always a concern with camera equipment. I wouldn’t give up my DSLR gear for any mirrorless body that would probably fail on its first fall hitting a rock, or if it were used as a tool to smack a would be thief on the head trying to rob me in Lima. Shit, my stuff ways a ton, but its been up and down Africa, the Middle East, through South America, and across Asia overland using buses, trucks, trains and boats without issues – so no, I will keep using the gear I own because of its proven track record.

    1. thundrrd Avatar
      thundrrd

      You tell us how your camera has traveled all over with you and make out like you are a pro – not saying you are not – but then give us a shitty picture to look at … hmmm.

      1. Dio Genes Avatar
        Dio Genes

        Spot on, thundrrd! Looks like it has been taken with misaligned mirror lens (Ebay $40). I just checked his website and it gets worse… what a waste… sorry.

  56. Larry L Avatar
    Larry L

    I agree with the article. You have a lot more choices with the Nikon & Cannon. The ebay bargans with Nikkor lenses I have gotton were amazing, especially some older ones in like new shape. You can save a lot of money and there is a HUGE selection to choose from.
    I know I can make money with a few basic ones but I have a passion for the art side of it all with a desire for some special lenses like extra wide, micro, very fast, extra long…
    I have seen people just going into photography stores and blindly buying what the the salesman wants to push. Many never even considering the overall scope of what they want to do.

    It is like they just push the newest trick a camera has, as being the reason for it being the best choice.

    It all boils down to just what do want to do with your camera and the vision you have for the future. The lenses should be your first consideration in gear, if serious about it.

  57. Mat Avatar
    Mat

    Not sure what is meant by “no full system” or if this is meant to matter for each and everybody. I’ve been shooting commercial shots, portraiture and weddings. Using a small and cheap adapter making the hot shoe iso-conform I can use my portable flash setup (pocketwizard plus four Nikon heads plus light formers) and my studio setup (Bowens Gemini) without any hassle. I started with Nikon 20 years ago and eventually switched to Sony (and Fuji, for fun…) and don’t feel any relevant parts of neither system missing. Just me…

  58. Charlie Avatar
    Charlie

    It really doesn’t matter which camera you shoot with. What really matters is how you feel about the camera and the images you produce with it. Are you liking your shots or not? If not try another camera and lens combo. Rent them if you have to until you find what your looking for. But don’t go based on the specs of a camera or what some dude says get off your lazy butt and shoot with it. Find your own way!

  59. Chakib Avatar
    Chakib

    Well, it’s interesting because I just switched from Canon to the 7RII… and I can frankly say that this is a very biased and incorrect article. I could give a good explanation as to why this is so wrong, from the incredible EVF, to the stabilization system, ability to use Canon/ Nikon lenses with an adapter, etc etc…. but when people are as biased as this writer, it’s a waste of time to explain. Pure garbage.

  60. possumrld Avatar
    possumrld

    Personally, after my 3rd Sony DSLR, my 3rd Sony SLR, and with a Sony e-mount, mirror-less camera in between those, making a total of 7 Sony cameras I have owned to date, with 3 of them currently in my possession, I am about ready to give up on Sony altogether.
    First of all, Sony has totally abandoned their A-mount users, for their E-mount mirror-less camera’s.
    I have nothing in particular against their mirror-less line. But they should not have abandoned their SLR line, and their SLR users, leaving us with crappy firmware and with no updates in sight, no matter how much we protest.
    And it is very hard to get aftermarket lenses and equipment, and Sony lenses and equipment is mostly outrageous in cost.
    And it is very true that Sony does not really have a true platform for any one of their camera lines. For that matter, Sony seems to have gone to a Whack a Mole approach to developing their products. And they have already burned me big time, with my Sony SLT A-77-II, so I don’t trust them anymore.
    I may not get much for my used Sony “stuff”, but I am about ready to start all over again. I only wish I knew where to start over now. A full frame format is totally out of the question for me. They are just too expensive. I don’t have money running out of my ears, so I can’t justify the money for a full frame camera, unless I can make it pay. And there are no guarantees there, so for now I am stuck with crop factors and such.
    Yet I do not mind that so much. It is just that I would like to get the best camera for the money, for good crisp photos, and for future hopes of having something I can depend on to be current, while the parent company develops reasonably priced support products that I can use with my camera for years to come, without worrying about them abandoning my primary camera line, and leaving me with such limited options like Sony did with us A mount users, by them abandoning us, and in so doing leaving us “out in the cold” with thousands of dollars of what is essentially obsolete equipment.
    Suggestions, anyone?

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    Scout Dog

    I did buy a Sony A7rii and I am generally happy with that decision except for one massive problem that nobody mentions when talking about the mirrorless platform. It is impossible to change the lens outdoors without getting dust and pollen on the sensor. The camera that was advertised as the camera which with the appropriate adaptor could use any lens ever made finds itself with a G master zoom, which weighs as much as an M1 Garand, perminately attached 100% of the time. So my small light camera turns out to be a backpack proposition and the promise of using virtually any lens turns out to be not at all the case.