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UPDATE: Illustrations included.
There are several ways to wear your camera strap, you can wear it on your neck in what I'd love to call "The Lunchbox Carry"; you can wear it on your shoulder in a "Lazyman Hang" or you can wear it across your body, like soldiers are wearing their weapons in a "Weapon Cross". Which one is your favorite?
Now, each of these hangs can be rated on three factors:
Lunchbox is by far the fastest way to move from hang to shoot. You just move the camera a few inches up, and you are good to go. It is also pretty safe - the chances of the camera falling from your neck are slim. But.... Try to wear your camera around your neck for a day. Your neck will not thank you.
The Lazyman's hang is more comfortable and will allow you move the camera close to your eye fast enough (though not as fast as the lunchbox). It is not the most ergonomic and comfortable way to lag a camera, but it is more comfortable than the Lunchbox Carry, but still not the best way to lag a camera around. Now lets discus safety, the Lazyman's Hang is not safe. Just the constant worry about your gear will wear you out.
I called it the weapon's Cross cuz this is how soldiers carry their weapons - across the chest. This is a very safe way to carry your camera. It is also very comfy. (OK, if you carry a Mark II's with a 70-200 lens, nothing is comfy, but for all other uses it will work just fine). The thing about this type of carry is that it is not really easy to get the camera close to your eye to take a photo.
Hee Soo Shin sent me a note about a DIY version of the R-Strap - it looks fun and easy to use. It looks comfy, safe and a fast draw. Here is a short video to get you acquainted with the system. If you've used one of those, I'd love to hear what you thought if it.
So, the R-Strap looks like a nice solution, but who wants to pay 50 bucks for a camera strap you can make for nearly free!!!
Here is a quick R-Strap recipe by Hee Soo Shin:
1. Take a strap from a messenger bag. You can take one from a bag you no longer use, or buy a new one for close to nothing at goodwill.
2. For this hack, Hee Soo, took one of the quick connects by Bogen tripod, but you can also use a 3/4 bolt with an extension. Or,
you can use an L bracket from the bottom part of a cactus v2s receiver mount.
And if you've gone through the trouble of attaching a bolt or a bracket, you might as well use make it a tripod as well.
3. Use a buckle to fasten the two ends of the strap together...
4. For shoulder pad, you can use what ever came with the messenger bag strap, or use a shoulder strap pad from a guitar store(7 bucks))
Voila... DIY R-strap.. it's super comfortable and the great part is at weddings when you have to have 2 camera's with flashunit in the hotshoe it's totally out of your way and you don't have 2 flash units sticking up at you.
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(Anonymous Coward, thanks for all the typo fixes, where would I be without you :)
Related:
- Strap it on Baby
- The R-Strap
- Hee Soo Shin
Comments
Illustrations
Hello! Perhaps you could illustrate the carrying methods for easy comparison? Also, you should fix a few typos on the text ("but it is better then the It is more comfortable then the Lunchbox Carry").
I like your blog very much, it's in my RSS feeds (between DPreview and McNally) =]
re: Illustrations
Your wish is my command. Illustrations added.
Thanks for the typo catch, Geo.
Mental note - do not post at 1 PM after spending 4 hours taking a crying baby to bed.
Eeekk what a great idea!
Wow! That will be so helpful for the on location shoot. With all that walking and the camera strap digging into my neck... this would be so nice! Thanks!!!!
R strap looks nice, but...
...how reliable it is? It looks quite easy to snap off the strap and then... bang! and cry...
I have to make one solid R strap in DIY way for myself.
Haha, great, thanks!
Haha, great, thanks! Sometimes I also get carried on with late-night creative activities only to correct them during the day. Thanks for the responsiveness!
It seems a bit scary to hang
It seems a bit scary to hang a camera from the tripod socket. It's one thing to gently hang the camera, it's another thing to having it jerk around–especially with a big heavy lens. I don't think this is the intended use of the design. Do any of the major camera manufacturers think this is a good idea?
re: but...
I have note tested the R-Strap so I can not really tell it is built well. However, if you are making your own, you should use good quality materials and stitching and you should be fine.
As for hanging a camera off the tripod mount, this is a good point, I'd do some tests before using it with a Canon MKII + EX800 + 70-200
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I never use either one of the three carrying methods you mentioned exclusively. I always switch to Lunchbox Carry for actual shooting, but may carry the camera Lazyman's Hang for a short interval, and then most of the time it's Weapon's Cross for me.
By the way, I took an idea from one of your other posts, and use my retired weapon strap for the camera bag (TLZ 2), because the original camera strap (EOS) is good enough, but the one that came with the bag is plain cheap.
safety first!
After building the DIY R-Strap from old Lowepro and a Dell Straps I was a little bit afraid of loosing my camera because of the old and not very safe construction of the dell bold/bracket (don't know the right name) I just used a piece of cork and drilled a hole into it. I think the picture should tell everyone what I mean:
klick http://www.flickr.com/photos/poll/tags/rstrap/ for more pictures!
Perhaps the new synthetic corks are better for the job but I first have to drink more wine...
Pollibus
re: safety first!
Nice addition, pollibuss.
So the cork, actually protect the carabiner from an accidental opening. Great idea.
Thanks for sharing the picture
What about...
the safety of tripod 'bolt' connection? It seems to be quite easy unscrewable (if that is the correct word, sorry - I'm still lerning english)...
Cheers.
carefull with that...
The D-shaped ring on manfrotto plates is only lightly attached to the bolt, there are shallow indentions in the sides of the main bolt which the ends of the D stick into, I've already had one fall off on me while screwing it in (it was fresh out of the box, so i'm guessing it was not seated properly at manufacture).
Non the less, that is not a secure fixing in any way shape or form. I would not hang a camera off that.
mmm, not a good place to attach the..
i thought the ring went all the way through...
but, never really thought about it so this is good to know. it would be harder in manufacturing it to make it al the way through, i guess.
Anyway, if you do this, attaching your strap to a bracket bolted to the tripod socket is one thing. attaching the strap to the bolt itself is another.
as a poster above noted, it will be easier for the bolt to come loose as the camera rotates or swings. better to mount a bracket and secure to the bracket, i think. keep the bracket short/small so it is close to the bolt (like one of the pics above) to minimize torque/twisting.
as far as heavy cameras carried this way. have no clue. but, i am sure there is more strain on your flash foot and flash socket when the camera is held this way. yes, we hold cameras in portrait orientation with flashes mounted, but is this while going up/down steps, off curbs, swinging, etc..
i like the idea of the strap
just things to consider.
for backup, you could attach a cord from your neck strap to the camera strap lug. keep it short to minimize shock if the tripod socket mounted bracket fails. either use this always or until you feel confident your tripod bracket is secure.
Tan68
I use the weapon's cross in
I use the weapon's cross in vertical orientation. This way when I use the weapon's cross, the hotshoe flash sits sideways on the same plane as the lens and acts as a counter balance that keeps the body of the camera against my body.
By the way, I don't carry as shown in the picture. I carry with the camera sitting on the small of my back, and not on my hip bone.
By the way, you can get the same effect as the r-strap if you have a little shoulder pad with a standard camera strap using the weapon's cross. The camera strap slides through the shoulder pad when you pull it up to your eye.
re: I don't carry as shown in the picture
Raisin,
Thanks for sharing your favorite carry. It looks like most photographers are using the safest weapon's cross and are willing to trade off speed a bit.
nobody holds the camera like shown in the pic, it is a family special ;)
Slimmer method of attachment for R-strap
I currently use a homemade variant of the r-strap, shown here
(pics would go here, but I don't know how to link them, so they are in the thread below under 'theyangster')
the D ring attachment works great and doesn't get in the way if I use my grip. (gripped xti)
If you can't find the materials you need at the local hardware store, you can buy them online, there should be some links within the thread
http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=458552&page=4
Why is the strap attached to
Why is the strap attached to the screw mount as opposed to its intended place? I mean why not just extend the original strap and attach it normally?
R-style strap further safety
I just put together my own DIY version of the R-strap which does indeed have a lot of advantages for speed and carrying comfort. However I too felt a bit odd having the camera hang and spin from the tripod mount - the attachment is a screw, so just think what can happen if your camera turns once or twice and the connection becomes loose...
However if you're using a messenger bag/laptop strap, you'll have two clips/brackets to work with. So I simply attach one to the tripod mount, and one to the standard strap lug on the left of the camera. This does two things: first, the camera is held by two points so if one fails you do not instantly drop your expensive gear. Second, the double attachment means that the camera sits steadily on my hip/lower back rather than rotating freely which always made me feel uneasy.
The other concern I had with the basic design is that it puts these loose swinging bits of metal around your camera body. If you wear your camera constantly this has the potential to rub and scratch your body. So I scrounged around and found the "sheath" that came with a flash umbrella, which has a narrow elastic opening at one end. Put this sheath around the strap clip and it prevents metal-on-camera contact without interfering with the sliding/swinging of the strap. Makes it quieter and less shiny, too, if you're concerned about that.
Why is R-strap better than weapon's cross?
I just don't quite see how the DIY version keeps the strap from sliding around too much on your shoulder, while still easily reaching the camera up to the eye. The non-DIY version seemed to have an inner and then an outer strap quite loose for the D-connection to slide in. Do you do this too or what is it I'm not getting? :-)
Makes me real nervous
I tried to make one of these, got a simple thing set up using an old bag strap, but the whole thing makes me nervous -- I really think it needs a second attachment using the proper camera strap connection points and not to rely on the tripod screw!
And then the whole idea of having the thing hanging near my back, it's going to bang into things as I walk past people or through doors and stuff.
I would feel safer if my camera had a leather case over it like the old film SLRs I had in the 70s. Why don't modern DSLRs ship with covers like that?
r strap use in weddings
I just like the fact that one is upside down and one is right side up.... I mean i wouldn't attach my 70-200 with my 20d on it but a light weight 17-55 would be okay... my concern is that with on-camera flash on both my camera's on neck strap gets hugely in the way...
reverse screw
Has anyone experimented with some sort of lock screw they can attach? Like a reverse thread screw somehow to prevent the camera from accidentally unscrewing from the tripod mount?
The Shoulder
"Lazy" photographer here. When shooting with two guns, it's a lot easier to keep the other body on a shoulder; and given sufficient strength of character, you'll get over the worrying in a few days. It's also nice to have the camera that you're using completely detached from you, for situations like the Groundpod (the world's cheapest tripod) or the Hail Mary (camera in your hands, arms at full extension).
One choice that makes a big difference, though, is whether you let the camera lens hang away from you or towards you. When you're putting it on your shoulder, you don't have to have the lens facing away from your torso -- try turning it 180 degrees, so that the lens is facing towards you, and then it will hang much closer to your body instead of clunking all over the place. Works well when the lens is heavier.
More solid attachement with reverse screw locking mechanism
For those concerned about the durability / auto-unscrew issues you can make an extremely safe and tough attachment out of an eyebolt, a wing nut, a washer and a keyring.
Get an eyebolt sized 1/4"-20 (aka UNC, Unified Coarse, Coarse Thread) with threading right up to the eye. I trimmed mine to exact size with a hacksaw. The keyring should be a sturdy one (duh!) but using it will allow easy attachment to whatever strap you choose. Assemble as pictured!
I'm thinking of using a spring washer for even more security.
Rstrap
I've heard about the Rstrap a few months ago and after trying to figure out how to build my own bracket during that time. I decided to finally buy it over the weekend and am quite impressed with it.
To answer some of your questions about it swinging freely by the way of the socket, it is securely mounted to the tripod socket. There is a swivel point between the dring and the connector piece, which you can buy at any hardware store.
One of the main reasons for buying the rstrap is because the connector piece has been proven for our cameras. Don't know what the hardness and weight capacity is for those found at the hardware store at. And I don't want to be the one to test it out.
hmm-am i missing something??
I think both this and the other DIY method miss the one major point of this strap - IT SLIDES! Both versions of the photojojo DIY simply attach a strap the the bottom of the camera. What's the big fascination with this? The intent of the R strap is that the strap doesnt move - the camera does. The idea here would be to have the sliding snap-to-camera piece be free moving - as in the R strap. Any ideas for this one?
R Strap
By trade I am a retired mechanical engineer and now in my 65th. year as a PJ and art photographer. In my business I made many mechanical products. Based on this background, I strongly recommend not using the R-Strap to retain your camera when not shooting. The tripod socket is typically a small machined casting that is spot welded internally to the base plate of the camera. (Other mechanical methods are used but the same failure problem exists). What you put at risk is the body integrity of your expensive outfit. See whether the tech people at Canon, Nikon, etc. will maintain warranty of the body when you distort the base after some considerable use of this strap attachment. That is why some larger, longer and heavier lenses have their own tripod mount and do not put that much cantilever load on the tripod socket on the body base. At first, with the R strap you may find it practical to use but in time, there will be an uproar over the damaged bodies that will not covered by warranty repair and if past the warranty date, you will pay heavy duty charges to bring your camera back to operating specs (or maybe it will be non-repairable). Anyone can make a strap attachment from the standard camera strap lugs to resemble the R-Strap concept. That is my recommendation. Do not go the R-Strap way and anyone now using it should put it in the back drawer and forget it!!
thanks
Mr. Leon Hertzson brings up an excellent point. This carrying method probably puts too much unintended stress on the tripod mount. I am intrigued by your suggestion of an R-Strap style strap using the standard camera strap lugs. Would you care to elaborate on your recommendation?
R-Strap
This looks great. No one has mentioned the medicinal value. My neck and back from broken from a drunk driver hitting me. Hanging a traditional strap around my neck is uncomfortable and painful. I have always wished for a solution that would use my one good shoulder and give me quick access to get my camera up so as not to miss those special shots -- this looks like the answer. Thanks.
NutStrap
Nice job. A friend and I came up with our version in his machine shop. We call it the NutStrap. So far it's worked out great but I am no longer going to use it on my heavy loads but only a body + small fixed prime.
Missed one method :)
Heh, no mention from anybody about a hand strap? I do the weapons cross a lot, but only if I know I'm not going to be taking any pictures soon. I actually made a hand strap which holds my hand onto the right side of my d50. Probably not a great thing for bigger lenses, but on my 28-80mm it does fine. I made it out of a normal nikon neck strap, just looped one end through the right strap slot (it shares it with my actual neck strap), then made a short end which goes to the tripod mount. For durability, I looped it back and sewed it together (or, I hemmed it, heh). I then sewed a circle about 3 times around where the hole would go. Once done, I took a tiny little drill and made a hole just smaller than I needed for a tripod mount. Added a screw that fit to secure it, and oila! I have a strap which lets my camera rest comfortably and pulling a small amount on my right hand. The only movement needed is to raise it to my eye, and my finger is practically already on the shutter. So far it hasn't given me any problems, and if I notice any wear, I'll probably get a better neck strap than Nikon's generic one. Keep in mind that the reason it doesn't fall off is because I do keep my fingers curled around the other side, giving it the hand-in-the-cookie-jar effect ;). One word of warning, though - you will most likely get hand sweat on the side... gross but probably happens anyhow if you're shooting a lot that day.
The Camera-slingers Quick Draw Pouch
http://picasaweb.google.com/karstenlang/CameraAccessories#52102701746671...
Not as fast as the R-strap though.. but better protection on hikes. I think I will combine the Quick Draw Pouch with the R-strap for better security!
Strength of the tripod socket
I also don't like the stock camera straps, so when I came across the R-Strap I was immediately interested. However the method of attaching to the tripod socket scares me. I don't believe the tripod socket was designed to suspend a camera upside down considering cameras weight close to if not over 1kg. So I made my own strap with a swivel snap hook connected with a split ring to the left strap lug. My concern is how safe is it to connect via one strap lug. I have a Nikon D90 with 18-105mm lens. Any comments or advice would be much appreciated. Thanks
Use the strap loop instead of the camera mount
I built my own R strap and found connecting to the camera mount is a major disadvantage if you use a tripod frequently.
Instead, I keep the removable tripod mount plate attached to the base of the camera and use ONE of the strap mount rings for the R strap.
This works really well. It keeps the lens of the camera facing backwards at your side.
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