3 speedlights openned, teardown-ed and compared

Mike Bock

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[editor’s note: MPEX are the people who are making the LumoPro LP180R, so it makes sense that that would want to share the information in the article. After all they did come up on top. The fact that they make the LP180R, however, does not take away any of their findings]

Today’s flash market offers a wide variety of options for anyone looking to dip a toe in the off-camera flash pool. While there are plenty of things to consider while shopping for a speedlight, one factor that doesn’t always receive the most attention is build quality.

Recently, I had the opportunity to look inside some popular inexpensive flashes and compare them to the LumoPro LP180R. Although I’m slightly biased, we at LumoPro have always stood behind our build quality (2 year international warranty, anyone?), and I’ve often wondered how some of the other flashes really stack up against ours. Does the internal build account for other brands’ lower price point? I decided to open up the Shanny SN600SC and the Yongnuo YN600EX-RT, two popular alternatives for photographers looking for a bargain, and share what I found.

VERY IMPORTANT NOTE: Please, please, PLEASE do not try this at home (I’ve always wanted to say that!). The capacitors inside a speedlight store up enough charge to stop your heart. No joke. They can and will do bad things, if you don’t ABSOLUTELY know what you are doing. So stop! Put that screwdriver down!

Flash Head Fastenings

Before I could get inside, I had to remove the outer covers on both sides of the flash head to reveal the first set of screws holding the cases together. On the LP180R, you can see two small holes, in addition to the screws. These holes lead to the capacitor and allowed me to safely discharge it, using my fancy capacitor discharging tool. Again, you don’t have a fancy capacitor discharging tool, so don’t do this!

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The Shanny and Yongnuo flashes, both seeming identical on the outside, are quite different under the hood. The Shanny is held together with three screws on each side of the flash head. The Yongnuo, by contrast is held together with two metal clips, which simply sit in the indentations on the plastic. There are two screws on the one side, but these screws are very small and very short and seem to only be holding the metal clips in place rather than holding the flash together.

Once I removed the screws (or clips) from the sides, all three flashes had two more screws to detach before I took a look inside the flash head.

Flash Tube Digs

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That big white thing you’re seeing is the housing for the flash tube (the bulb that makes your flash, flash). Inside the housing, the tube rides up and down a pair of rails driven by the zoom motor, which adjusts the spread of the flash’s beam. The wires you see (pink and yellow for the LP180R, and white for the other two) are the wires coming from the flash tube itself. These wires do the heavy lifting for the flash. Current is carried from the capacitor (remember that scary thing that could stop your heart?), through the wires, to the flash tube, and that flow of energy is released in the form of light (and heat!).

The point is, those three wires are working hard for your flash and handling a significant amount of voltage. However, since the flash tube also has to be free to move up and down as the zoom spread changes, those wires have to be securely connected to the flash’s circuit board.

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If you zoom in on the LP180R’s housing, you can see that the wires are held in place with silicone adhesive. It’s a simple solution, but one that ensures the only part of the wires moving are the parts attached to flash (which are fused into the flash tube itself), rather than the other end (which is connected to the circuit board), a potential weak point if flexed too often.

And take a look at the main wires coming from the capacitor, which are responsible for carrying about 330V. On the LumoPro, the wires are attached to the circuit board with a quick-disconnect plug. This secure, positive connection makes it much easier to disconnect the flash bulb assembly if replacing the bulb is necessary.

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The Shanny and Yongnuo on the other hand have these wires connected to the circuit board with a simple solder joint. Which is sort of like plugging a lamp into your wall by cramming bare wires into the outlet; effective, but clearly not a long-term solution.

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A third difference can be found in the trigger coil, another piece that handles the voltage flowing through the flash. You’ll notice that again, on the LP180R, there’s a healthy dose of silicone around the joint where the wire from the bulb is soldered to the coil. The silicone not only secures the joint, but insulates what would otherwise be a bare wire. Bare wires and connections, plus high voltage can cause arcing. Internal sparks would be bad news for any of the flash’s electrical components. On the Shanny and Yongnuo flashes, I didn’t find any sort of protection. Just a bare wire soldered onto the coil.

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As a side note, that component next to the LumoPro’s trigger coil is another capacitor. This stores the charge that the trigger coil uses when firing the flash. The other two flashes do not seem to have this second capacitor. It may be that their triggering capacitor is hidden somewhere else I can’t see. I won’t make guesses as to why it’s not there (I’m not an electrical engineer), but I find it very unusual to not see one.

Body Work

Next I removed the shoe from the foot of the flash. Nothing too exciting here, as all three flashes are pretty similar.

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The LP80R does have fewer wires coming from the shoe. This is because the LumoPro flash has a single pin in the foot for firing, and the Shanny and Yongnuo flashes have multiple pins for TTL communication. The LP180R receives all that TTL information wirelessly via the built-in Phottix®OdinTM transmitter, so only the single pin is needed.

After taking off the shoe, I removed the screws that hold the two halves of the body together. Again, I immediately noticed a difference between the three speedlights.

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The Shanny and Yongnuo flashes are held together with just two screws on only one half of the body, while the LP180R has four screws, two on each half. Both the Shanny and Yongnuo’s screws are fastened into plastic. The LP180R’s, on the other hand are screwed into metal.

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Getting to the Guts

To be honest, I was expecting both the Shanny and Yonguo to be as seemingly identical on the inside as they are on the outside. In reality, they have their own unique design of circuit boards and components. There aren’t moving parts inside the body like there are in the flash heads, but I found the same general differences in construction as I saw in the flash head.

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Zooming in closer, I found that the LP180R utilizes plenty of quick-disconnects to attach wires securely to the circuit boards. The Yongnuo has some insulation where the high voltage wires attach to the board, but the Shanny relies on only bare solder joints.

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So What?

I wasn’t sure what I was going to find when I looked inside the less expensive flashes, but the differences were clear cut. The Yongnuo, the cheapest of the 3 flashes, was held together with glue, a couple of loose-fitting clips and not much else. While the Shanny had more screws than the Yongnuo, neither offered much on the inside in terms of protecting moving wires, securing vital, high voltage electrical components or insulating connections. The LP180R, the highest priced of the 3 flashes, had the most screws, the most metal parts and obvious thought concerning the security of internal moving parts.

As a photographer, the question you have to ask yourself is, do you feel lucky does any of this matter? For some, it might not. The construction of a Yongnuo flash might be sufficient and never give you any problems. Likewise, the better build quality of a LumoPro flash (or an OEM flash for that matter) does not guarantee that it can’t be damaged or succumb to wear and tear. We photographers are a rough lot and take our equipment into some nasty conditions. The bottom line is speedlights are complex and delicate electronic devices that can fail regardless of the build quality.

However, what you can see when comparing these three flashes should also raise questions about what you can’t see. If a manufacturer is willing to cut corners by not gluing down a wire that should be glued down, where else are they cutting corners? What other decisions have they made to keep their costs low? The cheaper option may be “good enough,” and I believe having options is in general, a great thing. But to assume there aren’t differences and compromises would be a mistake.

While I am obviously biased (though I purchased my LP180’s long before I worked for the company), there are clear differences in how these flashes are put together. What makes the best purchasing decision for you is a choice only you can make, but an informed choice is always preferable than one based solely on price.

About The Author

Mike Bock is the Product Specialist at LumoPro, a brand of quality lighting and support equipment made by photographers, for photographers. You can say hello to Mike and LumoPro on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter. This article was also published here and shared with permission.


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32 responses to “3 speedlights openned, teardown-ed and compared”

  1. Steve West Avatar
    Steve West

    Been using 2 Lumopro 160s for years. Great flashes. Never give me trouble–always work.

    1. Jim the Photographer Avatar
      Jim the Photographer

      I can say the same thing about my YN460s — all of them are over 3 years old and some as old as 6. The only one I had trouble with blew over on a light stand (outdoors) and fell about 20 feet; the foot broke and I then had to use it in S1 or S2 modes!

    2. William J Rheaume Avatar
      William J Rheaume

      Been using YN600’s for awhile now and never ever have a misfire.

  2. Voltax Avatar
    Voltax

    you should have included a good flash from canon or nikon so we can see the difference to the cheap china stuff….

    1. William J Rheaume Avatar
      William J Rheaume

      There isnt other than the price LOL

      1. Voltax Avatar
        Voltax

        i am pretty sure there is.
        i once opened an old canon flash and it was well engineered. not like what i see in the photos above.

  3. Deacon Blues Avatar
    Deacon Blues

    Seriously, you should at least identify your blatant sponsor advertisements as such.

    1. udi tirosh Avatar

      Actually, it’s mentioned in the first sentence in the post, and again in the author biline

      1. Kay O. Sweaver Avatar
        Kay O. Sweaver

        So your basically admitting that its an advertisement. This really rubbed me the wrong way. The tear downs by the LensRentals guys are one thing, but this is basically advertising disguised as news. I feel the same way about the recent B&H “expose.” It reeks of bullshit and makes everything on Petapixel suspect.

        1. udi tirosh Avatar

          We are not being compensated for the post and we are totally transparent about the source. How is it advertising?

    2. Voltax Avatar
      Voltax

      you can judge by the images yourself….

  4. Ryan Farr Avatar
    Ryan Farr

    Since the writer works for one of the brands, you could at least let us know that the article was an ad. That’s why there wasn’t ‘better’ than the lumen Pro’s in the teardowns.

    1. Voltax Avatar
      Voltax

      who he works for does not change what you see in the images…. does it?

      1. JOhn C Avatar
        JOhn C

        It affects how it is presented. For instance the quick disconnects vs, soldering. As I don’t have a need to disconnect the wires there is no value for me there. And the quick disconnect is likely soldered as well. Point is the brand will highlight anything that can be presented as an advantage to them, whether it is relevant or not.

      2. Ryan Farr Avatar
        Ryan Farr

        No but it bias on what the chose to be beside their flashes.

      3. Bob Agens Avatar
        Bob Agens

        He can hide things that are better on the other ones. An that thing about connectors vs soldering is silly. If you are savy enough to open a flash head, you can solder a wire or two. These are not user serviceble, so the comparission with home light bulbs is quite stupid.

  5. Kenny Girvan Avatar
    Kenny Girvan

    Interesting but should be noted that the Lumopro is substantially more expensive than the others. In addition the Shanny isn’t by default compatible with the Canon equivalent and trigger etc. The Yongnuo is fully compatible with the Cannon 600ex-rt and ST-ET R3 etc.

  6. Jeremy Avatar
    Jeremy

    In related news, Coke thinks Pepsi sucks.

    1. Sean Avatar
      Sean

      OMG I spit out my drink laughing..thank you. :)

  7. Gerald Avatar
    Gerald

    There’s a reason why the ‘Strobist’ for years, recommended older, less expensive Nikon speedlights… they’re in fact built to last – FYI I believe he uses these new LumoPro’s now.

  8. Renato Murakami Avatar
    Renato Murakami

    If quality control is equal to all, the fact here (from the photos alone) is that LumoPro’s solution is easier for maintenance. The rest are assumptions that might or might not be true… it really depends on several factors.

    For instance, using hot glue/silicone adhesive to make wires stay in place is only really necessary if that zoom movement is working against the wires somehow. It looks like a security precaution, but it might just be the case that those wires will never wear down after years of use even without being glued anywhere, for YongNuo and Shanny models. This is highly dependant on design.
    In fact, depending on design, using glue to force stuff to stay in place might be worse than letting it loose. Probably isn’t the case here, but just so people knows.

    Both the extra insulation and the quick disconnect plugs are great, sometimes absolutely necessary for maintenance work. It’ll ease up disassembly, component replacement, and safety overall. But we’re still talking about speedlights here, so like the author already said, it’s not something people without specialization should be cracking open anyways.

    Makes it easier for the supplier to make separate pieces, parts and modules available for maintenance work, but if you are an end user without maintenance experience you won’t be dealing with those anyways.

    One thing you can probably take from this though: by the photos alone (which well, of course can be carefully selected to show only the parts where LumoPro is better than the competition), one could say there’s a reason why LumoPro is more expensive. Basic components and construction material there is more expensive.

    I wouldn’t be so fast to evaluate that the other brands cut corners or didn’t use similar techniques to keep the price lower though. Big chances it is, but it’s not always the case.

    When it comes to designing complex electronics, there are some stuff that might not be as obvious as it seems.

  9. Mark Niebauer Avatar
    Mark Niebauer

    “obviously biased”

  10. Derek Byrne Avatar

    Seriously, you have a LumoPro writer do this post? You suck.

  11. Roger Botting Avatar
    Roger Botting

    The quick disconnects would help make the flash less expensive to assemble and test in the factory.
    The hot glue and silicone would make the different wire/PC board joins more resilient to vibration by reducing the flexing of the joints.
    There are many ways to make a product less expensive, some to the detriment of the eventual owner.
    Cheaper labour is the most obvious, but cheaper components, cutting corners on good assembly technique, reduced testing, less warranty are all ways to give you a less expensive product. That is, less expensive out the factory door. Once it gets into the hands of the middle men then all bets are off as far as the eventual cost to the consumer.
    Having been in the MPEX retail store ( not in the past three years though), I would say that they are good people to buy from. Maybe the price difference is worth it.
    And NO, I don’t work for any photo equipment supplier. But, I used to work for a photo equipment repair shop and have seen the difference, from the repair shop perspective, between well made equipment and poorly made equipment.

  12. Emil Richter Avatar
    Emil Richter

    wish he did godox aswell!

  13. Cesar Sales Avatar
    Cesar Sales

    TL:DR version – you get what you pay for. In this case one slightly better built flash for $229. Or 3 slightly less well-built flashes for $225. It’s up to you to decide if it’s 3X better.

  14. Frank Nazario Avatar
    Frank Nazario

    Very interesting read… I for my part am a Youngnuo brand user NEVER have had an issue with it ( over 3 years of daily use) and I have abused (great understatement) this equipment to the point of wondering what else they would have to go through to NOT work.

    The built quality I see here has proven more than enough to comply with my needs as an on-location photographer.

  15. david carnes Avatar
    david carnes

    It sure looks to me like shanny and yongnuo have strain relieved their wires to prevent loading the pwb terminations. I think that the point he is trying to make is that the connectors inherently allow for “slop” but if the others are staked that doesn’t matter. The author did not explain how the wires will be loaded in the first place. I assume it is from rotating the head. Having been in electronics packaging I think this comparison is really splitting hairs. MTBF is the only thing that matters and the only thing I’ll care about in a heads up comparison of products that have similar performance and cost. Please show me that Mr. LumoPro guy.

  16. Bob Fredrick Avatar

    Using Yongnuo flashes for about 3 years now. I have to say the are amazing units for the price. During the past 3 years we have had most of our Canon 550 and 580s breakdown. Ony one Yongnuo has brokedown. Say what you want….I will buy Yongnuo flashes without hesitation.

    1. Voltax Avatar
      Voltax

      when i look at amazon and other reseller reviews i see yongnuo flashes die like flies… not many such reports for nikon or canon flashes.

      i believe in statistics not single user reviews.

  17. KingODisaster Avatar
    KingODisaster

    Come on now. A solder joint isn’t AT ALL like “like plugging a lamp into your wall by cramming bare wires into the outlet”!

    Sure there are some minor construction differences. But also some exaggeration here…