Change Select and Mask back to Refine Edge in CC 2017

Jan 7, 2017

Clinton lofthouse

Clinton Lofthouse is a Photographer, Retoucher and Digital Artist based in the United Kingdom, who specialises in creative retouching and composites. Proud 80’s baby, reader of graphic novels and movie geek! Find my work on My website or follow me on Facebook or My page

Change Select and Mask back to Refine Edge in CC 2017

Jan 7, 2017

Clinton lofthouse

Clinton Lofthouse is a Photographer, Retoucher and Digital Artist based in the United Kingdom, who specialises in creative retouching and composites. Proud 80’s baby, reader of graphic novels and movie geek! Find my work on My website or follow me on Facebook or My page

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Many things have troubled me this past year. Global warming, war, consumerism, my beard that seems to grow ginger past a certain length…..but right above those, at the top of the list is Adobes new Select and Mask feature. Why? Because it just doesn’t work! No matter how many times I try, how many sliders I change, it just doesn’t create the great selections I was used to with Refine Edge.

Now to be honest I never really used the Refine Edge for the body, I use the pen tool for those selections. But where Refine Edge earned its pay was when I got to the hair. And like it or not, Select and Mask just doesn’t seem up to the task. Frustrated and tired, I did what any angry Photoshopper would do in their moment of rage!!!……….I created a meme! But with a great meme, comes great responsibility, and other Photoshop users began to share their thoughts on Select and Mask too.

I will show you later in the post how to revert back to good old Refine Edge, whilst using selections in CC 2017, but first lets see what other Photoshop users thought. The comments on the post seemed to be unanimous, Select and mask doesn’t work. Here is a small selection from the meme.

 

As you can see the reviews are not glowing. Now before this sounds like a hate post towards Adobe, it is not. I love Adobe, and Photoshop! They have changed my life, and many other photographers and artists around the world. I have brand loyalty to Adobe and probably always will, whatever happens. But sometimes you have to speak up to be heard. And if we speak loud enough maybe these issues will be fixed, and we can go back to complaining about the Healing Brush haha.

As of yet, I am still to hear of anyone with anything good to say about Select and Mask. If you are one of these people though, please leave a comment. It would be nice to hear from the other end of the spectrum to balance out the views.

And now the moment you have been waiting for! Hold on to your hats, or your Wacom, whichever you prefer. As I reveal how you can magically change Select and Mask, back to Refine Edge in Photoshop CC 2017.

Simply make a selection as normal.

Click on the select menu on the top Photoshop menu.

Hold down shift, and click on Select and Mask from the drop down menu.

It will now load up as the Refine Edge tool.

Simple!

This was a trick I learnt from Daniel Luna, a brilliant Photoshop educator. Be sure to check his website and Facebook group The Digital Photographer’s Photoshop, for more helpful tips.

Again, I would love to hear from anyone who has positive things to say about the new Select and Mask feature, leave a comment in the box below. Also if there are any other faults you have noticed in the new update, feel free to leave them and we can look into it.

Happy new year guys!

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22 responses to “Change Select and Mask back to Refine Edge in CC 2017”

  1. César Arias Avatar
    César Arias

    It used to work fine in CC 2015.
    It was frustrating the changes in CC 2015.5. Now, in CC 2017, it is a mess.
    I agree with you.

    1. Clinton Lofthouse Avatar
      Clinton Lofthouse

      Agrred CC2105 was my favourite of the updates……it kind of went a little downhill after that. hopefully Adobe will iron out the creases!

  2. ScorpionGeorge Avatar
    ScorpionGeorge

    So glad there’s a solution to this problem! Thank you for posting on here! Otherwise, I would’ve lived my life editing, thinking that’s what I am stuck with.

    Is this something that has to be done every time I make a selection?

    1. Clinton Lofthouse Avatar
      Clinton Lofthouse

      I believe so…..since I learnt this trick, i have been using it constantly! :) Its a shame we have to do this but hopefully adobe will straighten things out.

  3. London Photographer Avatar
    London Photographer

    Thank you!!!!

  4. Paula Avatar
    Paula

    this is THE dumbest update to CC 2017….
    any recommendations for using a keyboard shortcut to restore Refine Mast menu??
    I normally use Shift+Command+R – that’s not working because the shortcut takes me to Select&Mask…took out “Shift” and changed to shortcut to Command+P (cuz let’s face it, I never print from PS), and then adding “Shift” to the keyboard shortcut yields NOTHING.

    when talking about shaving seconds off an image for a job that takes days – it’s a big deal

  5. Daniel Valdez Avatar
    Daniel Valdez

    It’s not working anymore… Is anyone aware of this workaround being disabled?

  6. ruheene Avatar
    ruheene

    Ohmygoodness thank you so much!! This post just brightened up my day.

  7. Dolores Bradbury Russo Avatar
    Dolores Bradbury Russo

    THANK YOU!!! You’re the only one that I could understand as to how and WHY the refine edge was not working and finally – yes, finally – got it to work! After 2 hours of trying to figure out what I was doing wrong….thanks again.

  8. Laurie Avatar
    Laurie

    Holy moly. THANK YOU!!!!

  9. AR Khan Avatar
    AR Khan

    I really enjoyed this best idea that you shared here. just great

  10. Charles Avatar
    Charles

    I think im going to shoot myself in the face. Nothing in the world should be this complicated that ive spent the last 4 hours trying to figure out. What you suggested may have worked at one time but its certainly not working for me now when i hold shit and select and mask it just TAKES ME TO THIS GOD AWFUL TASK BAR. And no matter how many tuts i watch i can not get it to work. When i hit view i never get the color overlays other people get and then when i try to use the refine edge tool? COULD NOT COMPLETE THE TASK BECAUSE THERE IS NO SELECTION TO REFINE. MAKE AN INITAL SELECTION BEFORE USING REDFINE TOOL. make a selection!! Thats all ive been doing for four f%$ng hours.

  11. Chris Estonia Avatar
    Chris Estonia

    Its 2018 now and the same problem persists. If thousands of people are having this problem why Is Adobe not addressing it.

  12. Patricio Romero Avatar
    Patricio Romero

    So i just have to download CC2015, right?

  13. D Avatar
    D

    Thanks! Everything was dumb and you made it smart again. Makes me really really question the hiring practices of tech companies in the past few years.

  14. D Avatar
    D

    Thanks, everything was dumb and you made it smart again. Makes me really question the hiring practices of tech companies these days.

  15. clipping place Avatar
    clipping place

    Thank you so much for this good presentation

  16. Poppy Avatar
    Poppy

    Other programs have perfected “refine edges”, why is Adobe is so late to the party? Has anyone seen or tried the “refine edges” functionality from Topaz Labs? It’s like magic and makes Adobe’s implementation look archaic and pathetic.

    If some 2-bit outfit like Topaz can beat Adobe at a key functionality what in the hell is going on at Adobe?

  17. shakil Avatar
    shakil

    Really your thought was great but now i am using CC 2019 for creating mask.

  18. Dan Shick Avatar
    Dan Shick

    Still working in 2021 update. This has bothered me since the change. Thank You!

  19. Anjel Arobi Avatar
    Anjel Arobi

    Lots of information that I really enjoyed. Thanks

  20. Anjel Arobi Avatar
    Anjel Arobi

    Thanks for this great tutorial and informative presentation.