Unless you live under a rock, you’ve seen Senator Bernie Sanders and his famous mittens in a gazillion memes over the past week. The photographer behind the original photo is Brendan Smialowski, and he has spoken up about this whole meme-craze. In an interview with The Rolling Stone, he revealed some details about the original image and other photos he took that day. He also admitted that he’d prefer if he’d never have taken a meme.

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