I switched from Canon to Nikon To Medium format to Canon Again

Jun 25, 2015

Tom Barnes

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I switched from Canon to Nikon To Medium format to Canon Again

Jun 25, 2015

Tom Barnes

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I love Canon cameras, I really do and it was with great regret that I moved away from Canon last year after being an EOS system user my entire life. I started when I was 5 years old on my fathers EOS 300 film cameras and have then enjoyed every camera up to and including the 5D MK3, but there was a problem.

I’m sure it wasn’t just me, I’m sure a lot of other pros felt like Canon wasn’t listening. The fact that it felt like I had been abandoned by the system I’d bought ito throughout my career hadn’t come at a great time – I was at a crossroads in my career and wanted to make the jump into medium format, I couldn’t then still have my Canon cameras as they weren’t a viable backup with the vast difference in resolution – to me the only option looked to me to jump over to Nikon and use their D800 bodies as backups for my Mamiya Leaf & Credo system that I had bought into. I wasn’t the only people thinking about the switch, it was a conversation that was becoming more and more common when I caught up with other photographers, there seemed to be a general feeling of frustration at Canon.

For those not familiar with my work I’m a music and portrait photographer based in London specialising in press shots for artists, labels and magazines. Over the past ten years I’ve travelled the world with bands on tour or for portrait commissions, I now shoot for a whole host of people and changing focus of my work toward more commercial and advertising arenas but still portraiture. I’ve used most cameras in the market and owned all the Canon cameras from 10D to the 1 series, I’ve also owned Hasselblads (Hassle Blads) and have shot medium format for a few years alongside my 35mm format work so have experience of all the main systems.

The feeling of abandonment was frustrating and I wasn’t the only pro feeling that we were being ignored by Canon and I decided to dive in headfirst and move towards the high megapixel arena. When the switch happened, I sold all my Canon gear (all L series and 5D MK3’s) and dropped some serious cash on the Leaf System and Nikon backups, there was then the inevitable learning curve of learning how these cameras differ from something you’ve used your entire career and then differed from each other. It felt like the high mega pixel vote had been left for dead by Canon – it had been years since the launch of the D800 and then Nikon released the D800e which went unanswered by Canon. As well as the Leaf & Nikon kit I also bought a Fuji X100T for behind the scenes and to use as a daily camera.

Here’s the main Nikon kit

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And here is the main Mamiya setup

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So that’s what I switched from and to, did I enjoy the new kit? Yes, but only for a few months, I think the novelty and the learning carried me through but there were somethings done differently, some that weren’t done at all and some that were just awful. The main points I’ll go into below broken down into the different systems. I don’t want this to be a bashing piece – I will say that the quality of the Nikon was good and the quality of the Leaf is phenomenal but to me there is more to using a camera than the finished file. I didn’t get into photography because of the output – of course that’s a large part of it but I’ve always loved the process, the clunk and whirrs and the feel of the camera. If I don’t like using a camera then it’s a struggle to enjoy shooting with it!

Here are my good, bad and the ugly points about the Nikon and Leaf systems.

Nikon system

Good

  • Good Image Quality
  • USB 3.0 Tether
  • Comfortable to use
  • Deals with rear-curtain flash well

Bad

  • Slow to use
  • No preview on rear screen whilst tethering
  • Skin tones look weird on rear screen
  • Picture profiles are not as nice as Canons
  • Unreliable tethering – had to power cycle often
  • Can’t save to card whilst tethered
  • Locking of flash/trigger isn’t secure as Canon
  • Cannot skip images 10 at a time
  • Button not as good/fast as Canon wheel
  • AF slow and inaccurate
  • No preview on rear screen whilst tethering
  • Cannot skip images 10 at a time
  • Button not as good as Canon wheel

Mamiya system

Good

  • Amazing Image Quality
  • USB 3.0 Tether
  • Touch screen
  • Screen Quality
  • Tethers well to Capture One

Bad

  • Slow to use – really slow.
  • slow to skip through images
  • Autofocus inaccurate
  • Autofocus slow and hunts regularly
  • Awful battery life
  • System freezes a lot
  • Multiple battery types/chargers
  • Lenses are very fragile/sensitive
  • Auto WB – not accurate
  • Small line of lenses – V. expensive
  • Not comfortable to use
  • Repairs take weeks – sent to Denmark
  • Fires flash early in about 1/10 shots
  • Single memory card slot
  • LS Lenses add noticeable delay to shot
  • Locks up/freezes and has to be reset
  • Firmware requires battery grip (£1000)
  • Firmware a mess – locked my back up
  • Awful noise in low light (CCD back)
  • No picture profiles for preview screen
  • No pro service like CPS/NPS
  • Hard to use menus on back
  • Custom functions are a nightmare to change

As you can see – I haven’t really enjoyed using the systems above – there are multiple problems that I didn’t like and it meant that I wasn’t enjoying using the cameras – I’d consider this the biggest downside of the systems, I just didn’t like them. Imagine spending that money and then finding out you aren’t really a fan (I had used both of these systems before – hired in on jobs but it’s one thing to hire them for a day and an entirely different one to live with them) Both of the systems were very slow and difficult to review images on. Annoyingly they both had image review issues – I know it’s not a common issue but I always put picture profiles on my images in camera but Nikons picture presets are basic and made skintones look awful, the Leaf back on the other system doesn’t have any picture profile support – in the latest firmware they have enabled a black and white preview mode but when I installed that firmware it wasn’t compatible with my body firmware and caused the back to crash, I rolled back and my previews were stuck in black and white – not ideal. In the end I found myself shooting in black and white on the Nikon as I simply could not get skin tones to look how I wanted them to – it got quite boring explaining to people that the shots were in colour but displayed in black and white.

So, to summarise – both systems were slow and frustrating to use. I wasn’t getting the look I wanted and I couldn’t get my head around the rear screens. I started to not enjoy using the cameras and they were relegated to tools that I just had to use through necessity rather than desire. On top of that the Medium format kit which had cost me a huge amount of money was very fragile compared to the Nikon and Canon systems, it locked up a lot and was generally not massively reliable to use – the picture quality was truly amazing but it’s the journey to get it that was uncomfortable, I was getting increasingly paranoid about the gear failing or breaking on an important shoot.

Then the bomb dropped earlier this year when Canon announced the high mega pixel body that I had been after for the past few years. I got straight onto the guys at Calumet at Drummond Street in London and pre-ordered two bodies and a full set of lenses knowing it wouldn’t be shipping for months – it gave me a bit of time to prep the swap and figure out what I was going to do about the other gear and how I would finance it. Probably should note at this stage that Canon and Calumet have had nothing to do with this article, what happens next was paid in full and I did make a loss on the gear, I’ve not been compensated in any way for this piece – always nice to be up front about things like this.

I ordered two of the Canon 5DS cameras – I had thought about the R version but I didn’t want to run the risk of added Moiré. Lens wise I decided to go for slower lenses as I felt I needed the image stabilisation more than the speed and opted for three lenses – the 24-70 F/4 L IS, 16-35 F/4 L IS and the 100mm F/2.8 IS L. So far I really like all the lenses, I’ve never really shot too wide but it’s useful to have the IS – I think I definitely made the right decision and so far haven’t missed the speed – I always stopped down anyway so not a problem!

A couple of things made the swap a little less painful – Calumet were offering a trade in bonus for bodies towards the 5DS and then on top of that Canon were offering a summer cashback on all the lenses I wanted to get hold of – thanks to both of those things I found it all a little easier! I chopped in all my Nikon equipment and that really helped – I should quickly thanks Jon and Jamie at Calumet for all their hard work and my unending list of questions!

Here’s the Nikon kit sitting sadly in the corner, do I miss it? No.

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I’m a week in with the 5DS, that’s 4 full day shoots and 4 shorter shoots, it’s not skipped a beat, it’s faster than the D800 and the AF is so much better. I haven’t been able to tether it properly yet as I’m waiting for Capture One to release an update to support full tethering support but if tethering is anything like the 5D MKIII then I should enjoy it – it’ll just be much faster thanks to the USB 3.0 – I’ve heard some rumblings that the USB port is delicate (aren’t they all) so maybe getting something like Tetherblock or a Jerk Stopper.

Here is the new setup

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Just to give you an idea of the quality achievable from the Canon 5DS I have taken a shot on my Mamiya full setup with the 80mm lens and compared it to the same shot taken on the Canon. A lot of talk has been made about this being a ‘medium format killer’ etc etc, I’m not so sure but have a look at the files below and see what you think. My rather fetching model is called Ken and he lives permanently in my studio as a pre-light or to scare people as as a prank.

I let the cameras do auto white balance so you can see how much they differ, both shots were taken at the exact settings (f/6.3 ISO 100 @ 1/160) No settings have been applied – just auto white balance and opened in camera raw.

Here’s a shot from the Mamiya (on the right is a 100% crop)

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And here’s that same shot from the Canon with the 100mm 2.8 L IS lens (100% crop on the right)

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The 5DS is a great camera, I really enjoy using it and I think I’ll be really happy using it as a workhorse camera for a couple of years. The images I’ve had out of it are very very good – as are the new lenses I’ve bought. It’ll be fantastic to tether it when Capture One releases an update soon and so far I haven’t really got any complaints – the thumb button took a little time to get used to as it’s very sensitive but that’s it so far! Time will tell though and I’m sure I will find something – I always do – I won’t waste money doing another system swap again!

I’ll keep the Mamiya system for the larger commissions when sizes past 40/50mp are required but for my day to do I’ll be using the new Canon, it looks to me like it’s a camera for almost all shoots, and hopefully will be a proper workhorse.

I’ll say here for the sake of fairness that Nikon has apparently addressed some of the issues I’ve mentioned above in the D810 and Mamiya (Phase One) have just announced a new camera body but at £4,500 for the body (without a prism!) I think I’ll just rent them in on a job by job basis.

Do I think the 5DS is a medium format killer? No – I think they are two very different camera systems, there are advantages to both. One thing that I am sure of is that the world of medium format is going to have to step it up or become more accessible. As DSLRs try to be more like Medium format I think it would do the industry no harm if the Medium format world tried to be a little more like the DSLR world in ease of use, speed, durability and autofocus.

This post has been written as a response to all the people asking me about my system swaps and why I was doing them, hopefully this answers it all. In answer to the most common question, yes I’ve lost money swapping about but I’ve started enjoying using my cameras again, to me that’s worth it. It’s early days with the new system, all signs look positive and I’m happy so far, here’s hoping it stays that way!

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Tom Barnes is a self-taught portrait photographer from London, England. You find more of his work on his website and connect with him via InstagramTwitter  and Facebook

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23 responses to “I switched from Canon to Nikon To Medium format to Canon Again”

  1. Biff Stephens Avatar
    Biff Stephens

    And the Fuji? What happened to it?

    1. Tom Barnes Avatar
      Tom Barnes

      Actually got replaced with a Canon 6D, forgot to put this in the article.

  2. Christine Welsh Avatar
    Christine Welsh

    Self taught or self thought?
    End of article description of Tom, says “self thought”.
    Lots of great information in the article. Always good to hear from experienced users.

    1. Tom Barnes Avatar
      Tom Barnes

      Hi Christine – glad you enjoyed it – I’m self taught (and not very good at spelling!)

      1. udi tirosh Avatar
        udi tirosh

        that was all my bad :) should be fixed now.

  3. verytoxic Avatar
    verytoxic

    Everyone feels the need to announce to the world that they’ve switched something

  4. Jeff Ridout Avatar
    Jeff Ridout

    Meh I went to Nikon for the same reasons as he went back to canon. I find canon bodies to be clunky and plastickie and I don’t like the output files. I love my d800 and has survived some pretty nasty conditions around the world.

  5. Dan Men Avatar
    Dan Men

    he married Canon at birth, anything Canon will be fine, even soiled underwears will smell like roses to him

  6. Michael Gara Avatar
    Michael Gara

    Booooringgggg! Surely nobody cares?

  7. Aankhen Avatar
    Aankhen

    Your ‘Bad’ list for Nikon has several duplicates. And I was surprised to see picture profiles mentioned, as I would have thought you’d use the most neutral setting. Have I misunderstood?

    Still, the other things you mention, for both Nikon and Mamiya, are inexcusable given the expense involved. I do hope the D810 is better.

  8. pieter Avatar
    pieter

    “I didn’t get into photography because of the output”

    Then why did you get caught up in the high megapixel race?

    “it had been years since the launch of the D800 and then Nikon released the D800e which went unanswered by Canon.”

    D800 and D800e were announced at the same time.

  9. Alex Masters Avatar
    Alex Masters

    “I’ll keep the Mamiya system for the larger commissions when sizes past 40/50mp are required”

    So you have a Credo 40 and a Canon 5Ds ..and you’re keeping the MFDB around for when you need sizes larger than 40/50MP?

    You do realize that the ’40’ in ‘Credo 40’ is the number of MP of the back, right? And your 5Ds has 50MP ..thus rendering what you just said totally nonsensical?

    Or are you only interested in peoples perception of you on larger commissions? Sorry but.. if you have that many gripes about a system, a large shoot is the last place I’d use it.

    — Leaf AFi/Credo 80 / Phase One XF/IQ380 owner.

  10. Jim Johnson Avatar
    Jim Johnson

    I appreciate the article and the author sharing it. However…

    It would be better to do a little self evaluation as to why he thought he needed this gear. The truth is that the gear did not match the way he worked, and never did. So why did he think that he needed it to get his job done? Higher megapixels? Really?

    There are lots of photographers who do this… they decide they need something simply because they feel like they should need it, and they evaluate the equipment for all sorts of technical superiority instead of thinking about how well it fits with what they do. What they really should be asking is, “How do I work? And, what is holding up that process?”

    I’m also amazed he just “switched” and invested a huge amount of money ($40k-$50k) in systems he didn’t even know if he liked! Rent that stuff first! Try it on for size!

  11. Leo Falcon Avatar
    Leo Falcon

    So this blog is called DIYPhotography and here it is, another of the least DIY articles ever. You publish articles about photographers that work even with non DSLR cameras and you start publishing this stuff? I know if you are going to spend money on something you better know what you are getting but for a DIY inspired page spend 50k on new equipment just because something new got out then you clearly are getting the concept of DIY wrong.

  12. John-Paul Bichard Avatar
    John-Paul Bichard

    Not sure why everyone is down on this article – it’s useful to hear about the ‘mistakes’ and to understand another photographers motivations for owning, switching and searching out gear. There is no perfect system, there is no perfect means of learning and progressing: perhaps you bang away for ages seemingly getting nowhere, then suddenly something clicks; perhaps you reach a point when the work feels it should be better, technique is good but something is missing… this article is about a development process. Who cares about the money, it’s not about that, it’s about trying to find what works and being prepared to make mistakes with whatever budget you can scrape together. Thanks for writing it: I’m at a point when I think going MF should be a natural progression but have many doubts, so good to see another persons journey.

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