Photography: Real Fire Rocks / Photoshop Fire Sucks
How did I manage not to burn the house down??
Well, first, my wife was not at home, LOL... and second, with the remote trigger in one hand, and an extinguisher in the other... just in case!! ;O))
This is what Filipe Batista had to say when I wondered how he took that shot. The extinguisher bit is enough to hint that no Photoshop was used to create the fire and as they say it the magic industry. Don't worry, that fire is harmless. Unless you touch it.
Filipe was kind enough to share the secretes behind this fire spectacle with DIYP readers:
Tabasco always reminds me something hot and spicy. (And I mean the red stuff, not them green substitutions) The idea of getting a shot of the Tabasco bottle "on fire" came naturally. Now all that was needed was fire. (And I mean the red stuff, not them Photoshop substitutions).
I needed a firm setup, regardless of the fire. I started to build the setup step by step, adding lighting elements as I go.
First, I put the Tabasco bottle on a 60x90cm, 8mm thick transparent glass, supported by two wood stands. This has to be real glass. Pleaxi won't do any good here.
I started with the key light: I placed the first strobe (softbox, front/right) in order to get a pleasant reflection. I then made a test shot to adjust exposure.
The shot came flat, so I added a second strobe: a Canon 580exII on the ground, under the glass and pointed up to the base of the Tabasco in order to get the glow on the bottle and illuminate the spicy mixture.
After that I decided to add a third strobe (umbrella, behind/left) to get a rim light that helped to define the left side of the bottle.
Just to get a taste of the process, here is the shot with the underfill and rimlight, and a shot with the key light and rim light.
As a final touch I added the white cardboard (front/left), just for fill a little bit.
The lights were set, I ended with f16 and 1/200s of exposure. Here is the setup diagram (made with Kevin Kurtz's excellent lighting diagram tool)
After setting the lights, came the fire part. YES!
I dropped some 96% vol. alcohol on the glass, about 20 cm behind the Tabasco bottle... ignite and...
FLAME!!!
I soon realized that with 1/200s no flames were visible on picture so I had to reduce the exposure time, and after more test shots (and almost half of an alcohol gallipot) I ended up with 4 seconds of exposure.
Four seconds is a long time. The modeling lights of the strobe had to be eliminated. With an exposure that long, they changed the lighting completely.
Four seconds also dictated locking focus before the shot. I also used the mirror lock up option to avoid any shake and remote cable to release the shutter.
The only trick I had to manage was to ignite the alcohol about one or two seconds after releasing the shutter to get a nice big yellow/orange flame behind the bottle, and to avoid overexposure of the flames...
At that point and with already half a dozen of usable shots, I thought that a little bit of smoke getting out of behind the bottle would be nice, so I grabbed two incense sticks and put them just behind the Tabasco... et voila!
Not much post done on this image. A bit of a push on Adobe Raw, a bit of healing brash dust removal magic and your usual levels/contrast/saturation to give a little bit of punchy colors...
Now go back to the opening of the post for safety rules.
Links:
- Filipe Batista awesome Flickr stream
- Some fake fire. Booooooo. No, actually those are kinda impressive if you're a PS wizard.
Featured Comment by V.Cyr
I'm a deadman
My girlfriend is going to kill me as soon as I try this... and I have to try it now... awesome idea
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Im a deadman
My girlfriend is going to kill me as soon as I try this... and I have to try it now... awsome idea
ha ha!
Is this before or after you took over the living room for your toys and games photo studio?
Wife is a familiar issue, I get by by promising not to take her picture right after she wakes up. Extortion? maybe.
HeHeHe
If only that worked on my boyfriend...
Thanks Udi
Hi Udi,
Your posts @ DIYphotography.net rocks, keep them comming...
Thanks for picking my picture, it is an honor an a pleasure...
Cheers!
re: tabasco pic
Fillipe, thanks you so much for agreeing to feature this image on the blog. I would be nothing without DIYP community.
Great idea, but BE CAUTIOUS!!!
This idea and the resulting pic is great! Studying chemistry, I really like playing with fire...:-).
But I have to add some words about the DANGERS of this technique and SAFETY CONSIDERATIONS (Chemistry is only be fun if you take care!):
- First, I don't like to hear "Don't worry, that fire is harmless. Unless you touch it.". Hey, it's a fire. Several hundred degrees hot. Never quite harmless! Even if you don't touch it, it might still ignite or melt your equipment even if it doesn't make direct contact. So stay away from the flames. You and your equipment/furniture etc.
- A fire extinguisher (like Felipe did) or at least a bucket of water or a big piece of heavy cloth is a MUST! Have it next to you. If something get's out of control and you have to run for it, you are lost! If you are not able to get a fire in a usual living room under control within a minute or two, only the fire department will be able to help you. By then, the room will already be gone. (I have seen an impressive demonstration of this fact at a fire department...)
- Only use alcohol (methanol, ethanol, propanol) because it is soluble in water and thus easier to extinguish. Stay away from kerosene, gas, lighter fluid etc. This stuff will float if you try to fight it with water...
- Make sure the alcohol stays where it is (straight surface or some kind of container!)! You really don't want a stream of burning fluid running through you studio location.
- Open a window, if you play with the fire for a longer time. This will let toxic gases out of the room and oxygen in. Or better: Do it outside!
Something I would consider a bit safer than burning liquids is this:
Take some cotton balls and vaseline (petrolatum), and wrap and "soak" dips of the vaseline with the cotton balls. Burns similar to a candle, but you can get this into any shape you need it. Placing it in a container will make sure that none eventually molten vaseline runs somewhere you don't want it to.
After all this safety stuff, here's one idea to make this technique even more fun (I really don't want to keep you off this, just to take care!):
Adding some salt to the fire will colour the flames! Look at this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flame_test
If you can get you hands on some "fancy" salts, try this out! The common "boring" sodium chloride you have at home will give bright yellow flames.
re: BE CAUTIOUS!!!
Tobi,
The salt idea sounds great. Thanks for sharing this. I remember my 5th grade teacher doing this with salt and candle and a fork. warm memories.
Thanks for highlighting the safety issue. I was only kidding when saying that it is harmless. Of course proper safety shoud be taken.
The points about air flow and leveled surface can not be stressed enough. especially the one about leveled surface. of course, if you see alcohol running down the table it would not be wise to ignite it :)
Do not forget...
Do not forget to keep the alcohol bottle closed and far away from the table during each try; some uncontrolled alcohol burning on a table is bad, but if the fire reaches a bottle full of it...
And waiting for the glass to cool down (slowly, or it may break) between tries is also wise: even if the remaining heat may not ignite the alcohol directly, it will surely make it more flammable and thus dangerous.
This is immense! I was going
This is immense! I was going for something similar when taking some light painting shots in my cellar with candles;
http://www.flickr.com/photos/will_riot/4011263846/
Definitely going to have another go at it after seeing this.
96%???
where do you get 96% alcohol? pretty sue rite aid doesn't carry it! thanks for the Post!
I will try it
The good thing is I don't have to ask my girfriend...my boyfriend, well, I think he will sit in the first row...no I can stand behind my with the extinguisher in his hands. I have to agree the fire in PS isnt good. Thanks for the great explanation - I will try it.
I've done this before
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