Nasty Lil' Lighting Thing

NastyClampIt is always nice to see a good DIY project turn into a product. It is even better to see a nasty DIY project turn into a product.

This is just what happened with Matthew G. Monroe's Clamp-It-Anywhere Project A.K.A Nasty Clamps.

In fact he has so many requests to just-make0one-for-me from other photographers that he upgraded the CIY to a full professional grade product. In fact, big part of the production chain is located in Oregon, just near Matt's house, and the rest of it is done right at Matt's Garage. Talk about home grown business.

This is why I was so happy to give them Nasty Clamps a go. And they are nasty indeed (in a good way). Read on for the full review.

What are The NastyClamps and What Are They Good For?

The nasty clamp is a flash mounting device, much like the The Plaster Spatula Light Stand or Clamp Light Stands. It enables you to mount your flash on anything clampable (love that word. clampable. clampable). 

Specifically, the NastyClamp is made out of two parts: a clamp (DAH!) and a Locline flexihose.

The clamp is a nice sturdy clamp. It can be attached to fences, doors, tables, road signs. It can handle the weight of just about any "regular" strobe, and it did well with my SB800 + honlphoto 8" snoot.  

The Locline hose is pretty flexible and will bend in any way to just a bit more the 90 degrees.  It also has a standard 1/4" screw on the end. It is the same size that most tripod sockets use. I use it to place the cold shoe holder that came with my Nikon SB800.

My Experience With The NastyClamps

I was taking some portraits at sunset and needed a kicker light, the NastyClamp was a good option.

I used the sun as key list and mounted My SB800 on the NastyClamp with a speedstrap and an 8" snoot. I attached the clamp to a nearby fence. No way I could have placed a light stand there, so that was my clamp added value.

Another added value was the great icebreaker that this device supplies. And don't tell me that its resemblance to something other than a light accessory did not cross your mind. It's an attention grabber.

I used the sun as main light and the snooted flash as a kicker. 

Yossi, sun on the right, kicker light on the left

This is what the setup looked like. Note how high and inaccessible the flash is (on the top left). 

Setup shot for yossi

I used the same setup and tried to play a bit, so I asked Yossi to face the other way using the flash as main and the sun as back/rim light. The fact that the flash was so far away created almost no falloff.

Yossi, sun and flash at about even ratios

Lastly I played with some long exposure (~1/60) and camera/flash dragging, ALA Strobist style

Playing with flash exposure and long shutter speeds

All and all it was a fun session. Of course we had to wrap it up with an image of me. So here I am holding the NastyClamp. Just cuz they are so fun to hold.

Me, holding a nasty clamp

NastyClamp Mounting Options

One of the things I liked about the NastyClamp is the fact that it can be used in a variety of ways.

The most trivial way is the one on the setup above, attached to a fence or a rail facing up. I was happy to discover that it can bear the weight (and momentum) of my SB800 + snoot.

The other way I thought it can be used is mounted upside down. I would guess it can even take more weight like this, since the Locline will not bend.

NastyClamp mounted upside down

Last nicety is the fact that I did not need a swivel for it. The Locline was bendable enough each way that I could point the flash in any direction I wanted to even without using the flash swivel function.

I have not tried this yet, but I would also mount my Canon G9 to take videos while I am in a shooting session.

Lastly, I liked the fact that it can fold flat to take very little space in my bag.

Wishlist

I really, really like the NastyClamp, and it is a permanent addition to my gear bag. With that, there are some add-ons and features I'd love to see on the next version of the product:

Secure Line to secure the flash to a fence/rail. 

A two-flash mount - same clamp - double the locline.

Conclusion

I love it! As I said it is now a permanent member of my gear bag, and it works great in small places, where light stands are too big. Just clamp it to a shelf. It works well outside, when wanting to place a high flash or avoid "ugly lightstands" in the scene.

Links:
- Get the NastyClamps
- NastyClamp FAQ
- Matthew G. Monroe

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Comments

I made something similar

I made something similar back in 2006...
featured here on make: http://blog.makezine.com/archive/2006/07/the_monkey_arm_diy_clamp.html

Made in Oregon

I love how so much cool photo gear comes out of my home town (think Lensbabies.)

Awesome idea and branding- price is high though

Great idea but I think the price is off the charts. Awesome branding, too. $49 seems a bit pricey but, I'm pretty frugal.

"Tripod screw"

It's a common misunderstanding that camera mounts are the same as a typical 1/4" hardware store bolt. This isn't the case; at-least it's not supposed to be, sometimes now days it is.

The little stud or threaded hole you find on your camera equipment uses a British Standard Whitworth thread standard, not the American Unified Coarse standard.

The BSW standard uses a 55deg thread angle and the AUC uses a 60deg thread profile. Both the BSW and AUC standards for 1/4" uses 20 threads per inch.

They're very close, but that 5deg difference can cause problems. Although a standard hardware store bolt will usually screw into your equipment, it's doing subtle damage to the female threads when it does and forcing them to become AUC threads in a way. The hard steel bolt will chew out the often soft aluminum threaded hole. If conditions are right the mating surfaces will gall and fuse and the parts will become stuck together. You'll be able to force them apart but this will cause more damage to the threads.

The best advice I have is buy and 1/4 AUC tap and a matching die and chase the threads on your gear so they all match the 1/4 AUC profile rather than the BSW. This is because BSW taps and dies are harder to find, and some gear, especially from china (oddly) is shipping with AUC threads.

Old timers will remember gear twisting together with no force, those were the days before mismatches.

Of course the caveat to the advice is if you have NICE equipment that you don't want to mangle into being something it's not, then buy the BSW taps and dies off the Internet and fix the AUC threads.

re: tripod screw

Hi Nick,

I can totally relate to the issue at hand. When I was making the two DIY projects at the top of the post, I had trouble finding the correct thread side/degree. I found that it is best to take a piece of equipment to the HW store and verify the match.

The Nasty was a perfect fit to my flash cold shoe / swivel stud so it will work with any of the "standard" equipped lighting gear.

That is a neat idea

I can see this getting a lot of use by a lot of people. Though expensive, we can hope prices comes down once scale is ramped up; not to mention it is an American made product and that is something to note when considering the price of an item.

Dave, great call on the thread size issue. I had just last night watched a review of a product for lighting that was a cheap ebay product and the threads of the reviewer's lug had the same issue. Now there is a reason. Thanks

Eric

Nasty clamps sure are cool.

Nasty clamps sure are cool. It's an idea that's been done before, and instructions for DIY are about, but there's definite advantages to the bought one.

Out of interest, do you think that first photo would have been improved if you'd had a gel on the flash? I'm an armchair strobist, and I don't mean to knock the shot... It just seems like there's two casts going on, and the cold blue of the kicker sort of takes away from it.
Perhaps you just wanted to show off the nasty clamp...

re: first photo

Thanks for the feedback, Adam.

As for the second comment, you know the time where you hit your self on the head for not bringing just that little bit of gear. Well, this is that time. And the sad thing is that all I was missing is paper thick piece of gel. Thanks for the feedback.

Prices

Austin, interesting you mention that country of origin influences customers to pay more or less, according to their perception.
I am sure that country of origin (of manufacture actually) influences the assessment of quality, but are you absolutely sure that a person is willing to pay more just because the item is produced in America. I don't think so. If it were so, outsourcing as a cost saving method would have no foundation.

Thanks for the great review! Plus a few extra comments...

Udi:

This is Matt Monroe (A/K/A: Mister Nasty Clamps) giving a shout.... Thanks so much for the great review of the clamps and your feedback about some future versions/modifications that might be in order. You were one of the first people to promote my early prototype (i.e.: the CIA), and your comments about my second run of prototypes certainly helped to influenced the current design.

I did want to give a bit of a feedback to folks who've commented that the cost of the Nasty Clamps is a bit too high. Indeed, were the clamps a product that I had manufactured overseas in China, the chances are good that I could get the retail price down to somewhere between $19.99 and $24.99. On the other hand -- in sending the clamps overseas for manufacture -- the overall build quality would suffer quite a bit and (more importantly) the working life span of the clamps would drop dramatically. By building the clamps at home (literally), I get to use very high quality parts, local power coating facilities, and Portland (Oregon) based molding and machining companies to manufacture the plastics. I also get to make a high-quality product that should last for a good long time in the ol' kit bag.

My retail price of $49 includes shipping and handling (within the United States), and the time costs of packaging, labeling, invoicing, and physical shipping are worked into the overall costs of the clamps. These times costs are not insignificant (as anyone who's ever handled fulfillment can tell you), and -- personally -- I think that a price of $49 in the United States (with shipping and handling included) is actually a pretty good deal.

I certainly welcome feedback about the clamps, and I invite those who are tempted to dip their toes into the world of Nasty products to at least try out one clamp. I can guarantee that you'll find all sorts of not-so-nasty uses for them, and that they'll become a valuable addition to your grip and lighting kit.

Matt

diy

Great article, nice to see a homemade idea take off!

Nice Post

Nice post.... thanks for the information sharing..

Nice post.... thanks for the

Nice post.... thanks for the information sharing..

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