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Wouldn't it be cool if your shutter would go from 30 to 1/30000? Wouldn't it be cool if your lens went from 14-400 (like your modem once did)? Wouldn't it be cool if you could pick and choose the parts in your camera? Hey! You can!
Today, RED announced their two of their new systems: Scarlet and Epic. Those are the two cameras which will enable you to do just that: Pick and choose the various parts of your system.
Very simple - each camera is build from several modules, a "brain" module which actually captures the frames. Several output modules, like monitoring and recording, Lens mount module for all your great Nikon and Canon lenses. You can mix and match modules just like you can mix and match your shoes, pants and shirt to create a new camera each time.
For a long time now, we've been waiting to each Photokina or PMA to hear the news about new DSLRs and lenses. RED is trying to approach this anticipation from a whole new angle. They let the photographers build the camera they want each time they feel bored. Want to use your Nikon Lenses with RED - Got it! Want to capture 30, 50 or 100 frames per second - Got it! Want to have some feature that is not even thought of yet - You'll get it! - Just replace the right module.
One interesting thing is that a camera like this can change the photography market. It would be extremely cool if RED would consider releasing a spec that will enable other vendors to hook in the system. Actually RED has taken a step in this direction to allow you to use your favorite lens maker (Canon, Nikon, ...) but if RED will make the extra step to enable some sort of licensing which will enable other vendors to hook in the system with recording modules, monitoring, batteries and most important - sensors.
A licensing method like this can start a wave of new applications. (Remember how facebook works, by enabling vendors to build FB applications).
Ok, get ready to say good-bye to 2500 to 55,000 big ones. One the other hand, we've seen it happening a million times before. Today's laptops are cheaper and faster. Five years ago, no one would even consider that an entry level camera like the Nikon D40 or the Canon 400D would cost less then a used F90x. The question is will RED be commercialized or will it be an elite differentiator. Time will tell.
The RED systems are not DSLRs - they are targeted for cinema use. They are capable of taking high res images with a DSLR quality lens, but they are not DSLRs. Again, time will tell if RED will take this concept to the pro (and later prosumer) DSRL market. Another option is that an old (Canon, Nikon, Olympus) or a new (Microsoft??) manufacturer will take on this concept.
What do you think? Will RED be a luxury for us all, or the pleasure of few? Hit me in the comments.
As my old friend O.P used to say in cases like this "Autobots, Transform and Roll out"
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Been watching this for months
I have been watching the red website for months waiting for the Scarlet's release and cost. I work at a publishing company in the photo studios, and we're getting into video production. I was made aware of Red from my friend in USC's MA film program. I've been hoping that this stuff could be purchased for our purposes since we have yet to acquire video cameras. I'm very excited this kind of technology is out there, and like all things, once it exists, it's price starts falling. The samples from this system are great, but not DSLR good yet. And keep in mind that the $2500 version doesn't have a lens, is only 5MP (HD, not Cinema or Still quality), doesn't have a Canon or Nikon mount, has no battery or viewfinder and the components needed to get it to just turn on are pricey. The 65 MP and 200+ MP cameras coming in the next year or so from Red certainly could create a nasty rivalry with Phase One and other medium format producers. Time will tell if it's good enough for still. From what I've seen, it's a great Cinema scale system, and at that scale the price is good, so I guess with time they could be stomping over everyone. But right now it's just nice to dream of a machine that powerful, knowing that it actually exists.
Form and Function...
Udi: As you know, I've had the chance to actually play around with the current incarnation of RED, and it's a mighty impressive set-up -- at least from a strictly "imaging" point of view... On the other hand, one of the big drawbacks to the system as it now stands is that (in practical terms) carrying the RED ONE camera around is kinda' like carrying around some sort of menu-driven boat anchor: it's heavy, and its operations are all plotted out via a set of non-intuitive cascading screens.
My hope is that the just-announced RED systems are quite a bit more ergonomic in design than what's currently available and -- just as important -- not so heavily menu driven. The usability of the Scarlet and Epic systems will be built entirely upon their... Errrrhhh... Usability... And for these cameras to have a place in the world of still photography, they'll need to feel good in the hand AND have an operation system that makes a good deal of sense straight from the box (or boxes).
Matt
OMG! you made the modem
OMG! you made the modem reference! ahhhhhhhhhh i remember those days!
anyway, i also been following this for few months. I mean.. the idea are cool. but the price ... are way on the pricy side for consumers like myself.
It is nice that the did thought of using both canon and nikon mount, so which means optics wise. there are TONS of selection.
I consider this a more fancy video camera more than a still, what i am trying to say is.. if... lets say if... if i ever get one... i probably wont use it as a still....
that's my 2 cents.
re: RED
@Adam - good luck with the video business.yep the cheap low scale price actually means nothing as you have to but a ton of modules to make a decent camera. As I said, I wonder if this is going to open up one day. If so, we will surely see some less expensive modules to plug turning the cost down significantly.
@Matt - menus... no one seems to bring this aspect as part of the party. I agree that great technology can be gone to waste is the user is not happy. time will tell.
Canon and Nikon will bury them
The price of the DSLR with video will be so far below their price point that there is no hope for them.
DSLRs will probably come with increasing HD resolution and the sensor heat issues is not a problem for the professionals ; let one camera cool while shooting with the other.
I simply don't see anything like the RED surviving anywhere but at the high end. And the high end marked will be shrinking.
The 5D2 changed the game. Canon even has 1080p HD in a point and shoot.
Wow, very cool, but no thanks
The system is impressive. But not practical for most photographers. High price and bulky (in my opinion). Yes, it could be a great studio camera. I'm not sure yet.
I agree. The advances in Canon and Nikon video within the DSLR's are a major barrier for Red's success.
My two cents.
Rosh
That's a monster
Just imagine all the dust in this modular design
modular idea is ideal
Being a prosumer (I guess) the idea of a modular camera is pretty intriguing - It's pretty frustrating when Nikon and Canon release new bodies several times a year leaving the older bodies in the dust and unsupported. Digital DSLR bodies are for all intents and purposes PCs and have a short shelf life (at least compared to film bodies). It's tough to swallow when you pay $1,700 or so for a body and have it obsolete in a year. Of course it's to be expected and you want advancement but the total abandonment of support (really firmware upgrade potentials) in the older bodies is a crime.
The idea of a modular approach would be pretty nice in DSLRs. It would be very cool if Nikon could make a modular body, based on the D3 or something, and have a plug-in brain or other major components. Much more sensible in the long run.
I'm not sure if the Red system will evolve into something for the prosumer but hopefully it will inspire the DSLR folk and get them to develop a system for the photographer rather than be driven by the marketing departments who insist on having a new model to tout each year. I'd almost like them to think of the body as a 'lens accessory' so why not make it modular? It would be a pretty courageous move.
Unsupported!???????
The Canon 30D I bought many moons ago got a firmware update this spring. Version 1.0.6 was released on 18th of March. That was certainly beyond my expectations.
Even updates for the software that came with the camera is available. At least in Europe.
Anyway I bought a 50D and is happy as a clam! I really love that camera!
greetings,
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